bobbob1313 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iUXWs15KvA...ted&search= Tell me John Mayer isn't a talented guitarist after watching this video. I'll admit it, even I'm getting sick of me always being a John Mayer apologist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Long Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I'll admit it, even I'm getting sick of me always being a John Mayer apologist. I know...I feel the same way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WaronWar Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 To all the Mayer haters, which it is very easy to be, I ask that you find an episode of Letterman where he sat in with the CBS orchestra. He's done it quite often and every time he fuckin rips it up. Hes made it very public that he makes records solely for the money and women which really turns my stomach but he does have talent. And someday, after he gets every STD ever and his trillions of dollars can't buy him a cure, I'd imagine that day we'll get a bloody good album where he shines. Until then his talent shall be smothered by greed and lust. Kaki King. Cool. Shes hot, she can shred, and she's into chicks. Awesome. I pretty much like the list but it feels like some people made it so popular stuff can be on there. It can't all be Jim James, Nels Cline, Kaki King, so lets put Jack White in there. Twice. So people feel safe. A great guitarist does not sell his soul, not unless your Robert Johnson. Besides, he still sucks I would have more love for him if he made a straight up blues record; instead, he makes shitty pop records that make young girls scream for his STDs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 A great guitarist does not sell his soul, not unless your Robert Johnson. Besides, he still sucks I would have more love for him if he made a straight up blues record; instead, he makes shitty pop records that make young girls scream for his STDs. See, now is one of those rare times when I don't feel bad about being a John Mayer apologist, since you are being a bit off the wall. The John Mayer Trio's Try is the closest he's come to a straight up blues record. They are in the studio working on a new album that will probably be more bluesy. Did Prince ever make any straight up blues records? He's a great guitarist who made pop music for the better part of a decade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theologians Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Where is Doug Martsch of Built To Spill. Few artists can craft guitar based songs like Doug does. His work on Perfect From Now On is all the evidence one needs. I am glad to see Nels though, and some moe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 All joking aside, I am not really into lists such as that - and that is a weird mix to begin with. For instance, what the heck does Jack White do that is so great? what the heck did jimi hendrix do that was so great? YES I DID! Even though he is kind of sloppy I think they should have put M. Ward on there. how do you find him sloppy? i think hes a great guitarist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Who is Adam Jones? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Adam Jones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 what the heck did jimi hendrix do that was so great? YES I DID!That's idiotic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 what the heck did jimi hendrix do that was so great? YES I DID! he had Clapton and Townshend shitting their pants that they weren't good enough anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 what the heck did jimi hendrix do that was so great? YES I DID!how do you find him sloppy? i think hes a great guitarist. I think I have shoes older than you - how old are you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobfrombob Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I think I have shoes older than you - how old are you?Leave the kid alone and go get some new shoes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Checking out that bold as love video that bobbob posted reminded me of how awesome hendrix is/was. Not that i need reminders. Sorry bobbob. I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds of that clip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Frusciante has been known for 15 years now, although there's no doubt that he's had some big breakthroughs in his playing in the last couple of years. True. When he made his debut with RHCP he was a competent funk/rock guitarist, but he wasn't considered anything special. In fact, many fans thought his playing was a step down from Hillel Slovac. He's certainly at a higher level of playing these days compared to 15 years ago. That's why he deserves to be on the list of "new" guitar gods even though he's been around for a while. Some people are on the list because they've gotten so good recently, like Frusciante. Some are on the list because finally people know who they are...Nels. Some are on the list out of pure journalistic laziness...like the Pearl Jam guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I haven't paid much attention to the Chili Peppers in recent years, but I was watching Frusciante during the Grammys and his guitar work just blew me away. His rhythm lines are more intricate than most people's leads. His fingers are flying all the time, and yet he somehow makes it look easy. He's also a very creative writer, judging from his contributions to the big RHCP singles in recent years. Seriously, is there anything better than that repeated line he plays through "Scar Tissue"? He really has become one of the greats, in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 And the Radiohead guys have been known for a while too, and I think have been pretty widely acknowledged for their skills since probably their second album. When Radiohead had a huge MTV hit with Creep, they were seen as peers of bands like James, EMF and the like. People started taking them a little more seriously with the second album, but it wasn't until after that that they were cemented as a band that was more than just another flash in the buzz-bin pan. As far as the list is concerned, I guess I could go either way on these guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Adam Jones Thanks. No wonder I didn't know. Tool. How seriously can one band take itself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_H_2 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 People started taking them a little more seriously with the second album, but it wasn't until after that that they were cemented as a band that was more than just another flash in the buzz-bin pan. But OK Computer was 10 years ago . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MeDave Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Did Prince ever make any straight up blues records? He's a great guitarist who made pop music for the better part of a decade. but the "pop music" prince made for the better part of that decade includes some of the best pop music of the time and a couple of all time classics (culturally speaking). the crap mayer turns out (guitar skills perhaps aside) is some of the most forgettable-elevator-music-in-waiting ever shoved down america's throats. imho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 But OK Computer was 10 years ago . . . That's exactly why I'm ambivalent about their inclusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_H_2 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 That's exactly why I'm ambivalent about their inclusion. But I seriously could not name 20 guitarists that have come within the past 10 years that I would consider a "guitar god." You have to extend it past 10 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Who says there have to be 20? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c53x12 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Tell me John Mayer isn't a talented guitarist after watching this video.I watched it. He can carry a tune, and plays a nice little blues riff, but I didn't see anything remarkable there. Certainly nothing that would qualify as "guitar godhood". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 But I seriously could not name 20 guitarists that have come within the past 10 years that I would consider a "guitar god." You have to extend it past 10 years. I probably couldn't either, and I have had a Guitar Player subscription for over 5 years. There's something wrong with that picture. Perhaps Rolling Stone, rather than naming people "new guitar gods", should have run a feature on the present state of guitar. That would have allowed them to include folks who are still very active and relevant, but are not young or newly famous. It also would have prevented them from having egg on thier face from padding the list with folks who were proclaimed "new guitar gods" in, like, 1992. If they're going to call Pearl Jam "new", why not include Trey Anastasio? Or better yet, Jimmy Herring? He, like Nels, has been at it for a long time, but has only recently been gaining large scale attention since joining (shudder) Widespread Panic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_H_2 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Perhaps Rolling Stone, rather than naming people "new guitar gods", should have run a feature on the present state of guitar. That would have allowed them to include folks who are still very active and relevant, but are not young or newly famous. It also would have prevented them from having egg on thier face from padding the list with folks who were proclaimed "new guitar gods" in, like, 1992. If they're going to call Pearl Jam "new", why not include Trey Anastasio? Or better yet, Jimmy Herring? He, like Nels, has been at it for a long time, but has only recently been gaining large scale attention since joining (shudder) Widespread Panic. Considering it's Rolling Stone, that's asking a lot, wouldn't you say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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