Dude Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Still on topic, on page 36 - I'm kind of impressed. (I haven't read them all, mind you.) Stay away from pages 17 and 18 - I needed to vomit at around that time. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 we all know jeff has a fetish with germany. impossible germany, once in germany someone said nein, kamera, krautrock spiders, and now voltswagen. so that explains the song. but what i want to know is why elvis costello is in a voltswagen commercial.Volkswagen. Link to post Share on other sites
Embarcadero_Skies Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Still on topic, on page 36 - I'm kind of impressed. (I haven't read them all, mind you.) We haven't had this much fun since the time I petitioned to re-instate Jay Bennett. Oh no you didn't Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Volkswagen. danke. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 danke.Bitte. Btw, that signature - still golden. That was masterful. Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I guess Isaac Brock the rest of Modest Mouse are sellout's too... when has it been a crime musically speaking to feed your children? It's clear to fans that Jeff leads a humble and modest lifestyle, he drives a Honda for Christ sake (sorry Honda owners - it's no Bentley) I agree with OWL, times have changed. I don't think it's possible to sell out if you flat out suck. take whatever you can get. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 Obviously, commercials are a step up the ladder, but selling art for any purpose objectifies it to some extent. People have been putting music in commercials for as long as commercials have been around. That horse got out of the barn a long time ago. I hardly think Wilco's foray into the world of advertising will have any effect on the debasement of music in general. I think we all agree that an individual has every right to profit from their art, and by doing so, earn themselves a living. To suggest otherwise would be insane. Band merchandising, t-shirts Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I've read every post in this thread (except the long ones)! Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 Jeff Tweedy didn't do an ad endorsing VW. Wilco accepted money to allow VW to create an ad that features one of its songs. I'm sorry, but that is tantamount to endorsement. Link to post Share on other sites
bobfrombob Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Sorry if this has been suggested already, but maybe Jeff was encouraged by Spencer to go this route. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Sorry if this has been suggested already, but maybe Jeff was encouraged by Spencer to go this route.Funny.... LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 WILCOVW ad campaign = Music and TV Spots5 songs will be used in 5 different spots.Details coming in now but info for the first spot below. Track from the first spot “Is That The Thanks I Get” attached.Rough cuts of the first two spots:http://finalcut.postspots.com/direct.php?j...dd2118207a45230HOLY SHIT THOSE FUCKING ADS SUCK! Link to post Share on other sites
Embarcadero_Skies Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Sorry if this has been suggested already, but maybe Jeff was encouraged by Spencer to go this route. Maybe he got his learners permit??? How old is the lad these days? Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 So it's hard for an art audience, especially a young one that's been raised to expect art to be 100 percent pleasurable and to make that pleasure effortless, to read and appreciate serious fiction. That's not good. The problem isn't that today's readership is "dumb," I don't think. Just that TV and the commercial-art culture's trained it to be sort of lazy and childish in its expectations. But it makes trying to engage today's readers both imaginatively and intellectually unprecedentedly hard.If this is true - that the TV "culture" conditions today's audience to be "lazy and childish in its expectations" - wouldn't insinuating some more thought-provoking music into the very commercials that are training us to be so complacent be a good thing? Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 As someone who has written many a painful long post, that last one from jnickerson is painful to the max. It is really time to give it up!! Please note he has a pic of himself yet provided scant personal information. Time to change up the tune man!!! LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 HOLY SHIT THOSE FUCKING ADS SUCK! fuckin' A Link to post Share on other sites
bobfrombob Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I'm sorry, but that is tantamount to endorsement.Na. Writing a jingle for VW is tantamout. "Jeff Tweedy (or Wilco) says drive a VW" is tantamout. 99.9% of the people who see this ad will never know (or even think about) where the song came from. I don't see that as an endorsement. And anyway, don't you have a job, and a wife and baby at home Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I'm not sure the David Foster Wallace quote applies here. He's talking about the type of art created in this current era. The songs given to VW were in no way artistically compromised for that purpose. They existed before the commercial and will exist far beyond it. You choosing to devalue the art for the sole reason of being in a commercial misses the point of its existence, and you allow yourself to be influenced by it, which seems far removed from the principle you put forward. Plus, that quote reeks of elitism. There are constant examples of literature, film, art, photography, even television that maintain the "sophistication" and "importance" of past works. Just like there was schlock back then as there is schlock now. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 fuckin' AA whole other thread, I guess... Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 fuckin' A dude, bro, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 If this is true - that the TV "culture" conditions today's audience to be "lazy and childish in its expectations" - wouldn't insinuating some more thought-provoking music into the very commercials that are training us to be so complacent be a good thing?Full disclosure: I have been listening to Weird "Al" all afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I'm sorry, but that is tantamount to endorsement. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing he endorsed was his check. Link to post Share on other sites
Embarcadero_Skies Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Full disclosure: I have been listening to Weird "Al" all afternoon. You the man! This one kills me (the website portion hit's too close to home) Parody of riding dirty. Weird Al Yankovic White & Nerdy Lyrics They see me mowin' my front lawnI know they're all thinkin' I'm soWhite and nerdy Think I'm just too white and nerdyThink I'm just too white and nerdyCan't you see I'm white and nerdyLook at me I'm white and nerdy I wanna roll with the gangstasBut so far they all think I'm tooWhite and nerdy Think I'm just too white and nerdyThink I'm just too white and nerdyI'm just too white and nerdyReally, really white and nerdy First in my class here at MITGot skills, I'm a champion at D&DM.C. Escher, that's my favorite M.C.Keep you're 40, I'll just have an Earl Grey teaMy rims never spin, to the contraryYou'll find that they're quite stationaryAll of my action figures are cherryStephen Hawking's in my library My MySpace page is all totally pimped outGot people beggin' for my top eight spacesYo, I know pi to a thousand placesAin't got no grills but I still wear bracesI order all of my sandwiches with mayonnaiseI'm a wiz at Minesweeper, I could play for daysOnce you've see my sweet moves, you're gonna stay amazedMy fingers movin' so fast I'll set the place ablaze There's no killer app I haven't run (run)At Pascal, well I'm number one (one)Do vector calculus just for funI ain't got a gat, but I got a soldering gun (what?)Happy Days is my favorite theme songI could sure kick your butt in a game of ping pongI'll ace any trivia quiz you bring onI'm fluent in JavaScript as well as Klingon(in part) They see me roll on my SegwayI know in my heart they think I'mWhite and nerdy Think I'm just too white and nerdyThink I'm just too white and nerdyCan't you see I'm white and nerdyLook at me I'm white and nerdy[White & Nerdy lyrics on http://www.metrolyrics.com] I'd like to roll with the gangstasAlthough it's apparent I'm tooWhite and nerdy Think I'm just too white and nerdyThink I'm just too white and nerdyI'm just too white and nerdyHow'd I get so white and nerdy I been browsin', inspectin' X-Men comicsYou know I collect 'emThe pens in my pocket, I must protect themMy ergonomic keyboard never leaves me boredShoppin' online for deals on some writable mediaI edit WikipediaI memorized Holy Grail really wellI can recite it right now and have you R-O-T-F-L-O-L I got a business doing websites (websites)When my friends need a code, who do they call?I do HTML for 'em allEven made a homepage for my dog (yo)I got myself a fanny packThey were havin' a sale down at The GapSpend my nights with a role of bubble wrapPop, pop - hope no one sees me get freaky I'm nerdy in the extremeIm Whiter than sour creamI was in A/V club and glee clubAnd even the chess teamOnly question I ever thought was hard was"Do I like Kirk or do I like Picard?"Spend every weekend at the Renaissance FairGot my name on my underwear They see me strollin', they're laughin'And rollin' their eyes cause I'm soWhite and nerdy Just because I'm white and nerdyJust because I'm white and nerdyAll because I'm white and nerdyHoly cow, I'm white and nerdy I wanna bowl with the gangstasBut oh well, it's obvious I'mWhite and nerdy Think I'm just too white and nerdyThink I'm just too white and nerdyI'm just too white and Look at me I'm white and nerdy Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nickerson - Why do you watch television? I'm curious. Also, people so totally don't need headphones on to be completely apart from the rest of the world, and I think this thread is good evidence of that. Headphones are only a warning for the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 As far as I'm concerned, the only thing he endorsed was his check. unless he's got direct deposit Link to post Share on other sites
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