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Still on topic, on page 36 - I'm kind of impressed. (I haven't read them all, mind you.)

 

Stay away from pages 17 and 18 - I needed to vomit at around that time.

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we all know jeff has a fetish with germany. impossible germany, once in germany someone said nein, kamera, krautrock spiders, and now voltswagen. so that explains the song.

 

but what i want to know is why elvis costello is in a voltswagen commercial.

Volkswagen.

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Still on topic, on page 36 - I'm kind of impressed. (I haven't read them all, mind you.)

 

We haven't had this much fun since the time I petitioned to re-instate Jay Bennett.

 

Oh no you didn't

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I guess Isaac Brock the rest of Modest Mouse are sellout's too... when has it been a crime musically speaking to feed your children? It's clear to fans that Jeff leads a humble and modest lifestyle, he drives a Honda for Christ sake (sorry Honda owners - it's no Bentley) I agree with OWL, times have changed.

 

I don't think it's possible to sell out if you flat out suck. take whatever you can get.

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Obviously, commercials are a step up the ladder, but selling art for any purpose objectifies it to some extent. People have been putting music in commercials for as long as commercials have been around. That horse got out of the barn a long time ago. I hardly think Wilco's foray into the world of advertising will have any effect on the debasement of music in general.

 

I think we all agree that an individual has every right to profit from their art, and by doing so, earn themselves a living. To suggest otherwise would be insane.

 

Band merchandising, t-shirts

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Jeff Tweedy didn't do an ad endorsing VW. Wilco accepted money to allow VW to create an ad that features one of its songs.

 

I'm sorry, but that is tantamount to endorsement.

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WILCO

VW ad campaign = Music and TV Spots

5 songs will be used in 5 different spots.

Details coming in now but info for the first spot below.

 

Track from the first spot “Is That The Thanks I Get” attached.

Rough cuts of the first two spots:

http://finalcut.postspots.com/direct.php?j...dd2118207a45230

HOLY SHIT THOSE FUCKING ADS SUCK!

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Sorry if this has been suggested already, but maybe Jeff was encouraged by Spencer to go this route.

 

Maybe he got his learners permit??? How old is the lad these days?

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So it's hard for an art audience, especially a young one that's been raised to expect art to be 100 percent pleasurable and to make that pleasure effortless, to read and appreciate serious fiction. That's not good. The problem isn't that today's readership is "dumb," I don't think. Just that TV and the commercial-art culture's trained it to be sort of lazy and childish in its expectations. But it makes trying to engage today's readers both imaginatively and intellectually unprecedentedly hard.

If this is true - that the TV "culture" conditions today's audience to be "lazy and childish in its expectations" - wouldn't insinuating some more thought-provoking music into the very commercials that are training us to be so complacent be a good thing?

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As someone who has written many a painful long post, that last one from jnickerson is painful to the max. It is really time to give it up!!

 

Please note he has a pic of himself yet provided scant personal information. Time to change up the tune man!!!

 

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I'm sorry, but that is tantamount to endorsement.

Na. Writing a jingle for VW is tantamout. "Jeff Tweedy (or Wilco) says drive a VW" is tantamout. 99.9% of the people who see this ad will never know (or even think about) where the song came from. I don't see that as an endorsement.

 

And anyway, don't you have a job, and a wife and baby at home :)

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I'm not sure the David Foster Wallace quote applies here. He's talking about the type of art created in this current era. The songs given to VW were in no way artistically compromised for that purpose. They existed before the commercial and will exist far beyond it. You choosing to devalue the art for the sole reason of being in a commercial misses the point of its existence, and you allow yourself to be influenced by it, which seems far removed from the principle you put forward.

 

Plus, that quote reeks of elitism. There are constant examples of literature, film, art, photography, even television that maintain the "sophistication" and "importance" of past works. Just like there was schlock back then as there is schlock now.

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If this is true - that the TV "culture" conditions today's audience to be "lazy and childish in its expectations" - wouldn't insinuating some more thought-provoking music into the very commercials that are training us to be so complacent be a good thing?

Full disclosure: I have been listening to Weird "Al" all afternoon.

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Full disclosure: I have been listening to Weird "Al" all afternoon.

 

You the man! This one kills me (the website portion hit's too close to home)

 

Parody of riding dirty.

 

 

Weird Al Yankovic

 

White & Nerdy Lyrics

They see me mowin' my front lawn

I know they're all thinkin' I'm so

White and nerdy

 

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

Can't you see I'm white and nerdy

Look at me I'm white and nerdy

 

I wanna roll with the gangstas

But so far they all think I'm too

White and nerdy

 

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

I'm just too white and nerdy

Really, really white and nerdy

 

First in my class here at MIT

Got skills, I'm a champion at D&D

M.C. Escher, that's my favorite M.C.

Keep you're 40, I'll just have an Earl Grey tea

My rims never spin, to the contrary

You'll find that they're quite stationary

All of my action figures are cherry

Stephen Hawking's in my library

 

My MySpace page is all totally pimped out

Got people beggin' for my top eight spaces

Yo, I know pi to a thousand places

Ain't got no grills but I still wear braces

I order all of my sandwiches with mayonnaise

I'm a wiz at Minesweeper, I could play for days

Once you've see my sweet moves, you're gonna stay amazed

My fingers movin' so fast I'll set the place ablaze

 

There's no killer app I haven't run (run)

At Pascal, well I'm number one (one)

Do vector calculus just for fun

I ain't got a gat, but I got a soldering gun (what?)

Happy Days is my favorite theme song

I could sure kick your butt in a game of ping pong

I'll ace any trivia quiz you bring on

I'm fluent in JavaScript as well as Klingon(in part)

 

 

They see me roll on my Segway

I know in my heart they think I'm

White and nerdy

 

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

Can't you see I'm white and nerdy

Look at me I'm white and nerdy

[White & Nerdy lyrics on http://www.metrolyrics.com]

 

 

I'd like to roll with the gangstas

Although it's apparent I'm too

White and nerdy

 

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

I'm just too white and nerdy

How'd I get so white and nerdy

 

I been browsin', inspectin' X-Men comics

You know I collect 'em

The pens in my pocket, I must protect them

My ergonomic keyboard never leaves me bored

Shoppin' online for deals on some writable media

I edit Wikipedia

I memorized Holy Grail really well

I can recite it right now and have you R-O-T-F-L-O-L

 

I got a business doing websites (websites)

When my friends need a code, who do they call?

I do HTML for 'em all

Even made a homepage for my dog (yo)

I got myself a fanny pack

They were havin' a sale down at The Gap

Spend my nights with a role of bubble wrap

Pop, pop - hope no one sees me get freaky

 

I'm nerdy in the extreme

Im Whiter than sour cream

I was in A/V club and glee club

And even the chess team

Only question I ever thought was hard was

"Do I like Kirk or do I like Picard?"

Spend every weekend at the Renaissance Fair

Got my name on my underwear

 

They see me strollin', they're laughin'

And rollin' their eyes cause I'm so

White and nerdy

 

Just because I'm white and nerdy

Just because I'm white and nerdy

All because I'm white and nerdy

Holy cow, I'm white and nerdy

 

I wanna bowl with the gangstas

But oh well, it's obvious I'm

White and nerdy

 

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

Think I'm just too white and nerdy

I'm just too white and

Look at me I'm white and nerdy

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Nickerson - Why do you watch television? I'm curious.

 

Also, people so totally don't need headphones on to be completely apart from the rest of the world, and I think this thread is good evidence of that. Headphones are only a warning for the rest of us.

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