tongue-tied lightning Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Nick Sheppard and Vince White replaced Mich Jones in The Clash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I could be wrong about this, but based on the music they put out, the early Gilmour period was not successful**. Pink Floyd went from "the rising stars of swinging London" with Barrett to relative obsurity/cult status with Gilmour. It took several albums before they regained their success and built on it. **I realize success has nothing to do with the point of this thread. Certainly, Gilmour joining made a HUGE transformation in the band's sound. That because of Roger Waters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 That because of Roger Waters. So was Roger Waters responsible for the orchestral type of stuff on Atom Heart Mother, etc? I guess the Pink Floyd sound changed more because of the loss of Barrett, rather than Gilmour coming aboard. They seemed to lose all of their pop sensibilities (or perhaps they shunned them in favor of more avant garde pursuits) after Barrett and didn't really regain them until Meddle. I'll have to listen to those early post-Barrett albums again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I just ment they were crappy until he got it together with the lyrics. I think without David Gilmour, they would have sunk. I say this as not really much of a fan of the band, and I have never worshipped Syd Barret. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkstar Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Nirvana dumping Chad Channing for Dave Grohl. The GD dumping the Godchauxs. Donna was played out and Keith was to a point of merely mimicking Garcia's guitar towards the end. He was pretty out of it. Brent was a breath of fresh air that gave them a whole new dimension for the better. Then again, the Dead had tried to "fire" both Weir and Pigpen for awhile but they simply kept showing up at rehearsals and gigs. Perseverance/stubbornness to the extreme. Agreed....Keith and Donna had played out their tenure. Was never a huge fan of Donna and her off-key caterwaulling, but in his prime Keith added some nice fills and texture. I love reading about the stuff that was going on when Bobby and PP were on the outs funny stuff. Like you said they just kept showing up. Of course one could never count on Garcia to get all heavy and be a bad guy and force the issue. Also consider the way their sound changed when Mickey quit for those 5 years, made a big difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peqger Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Jason Isbell joining Drive-By Truckers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
awatt Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 Mick Ronson in Bowie's glam years? Also think Rick Wakeman was with Bowie for a while too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 bruce dickinson joining iron maiden. yes, THE bruce dickinson. gold pants AC/DC. Bon Scott to Brian Johnston. Maybe wasn't an upgrade, but to keep rockin' to that degree. Sweet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Jeff Beck replacing Eric Clapton in the Yardbirds. Then Jimmy Page joins and eventually replaces Jeff Beck. also,Jimi Hendrix had Billy Cox replace Noel Redding on Bass after Electric Ladyland - (some say during). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jc4prez Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Effing David Gilmour replacing Syd Barrett! booo gilmore was a great guitar player but no love for syd? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 i can tell u that marr joining modest mouse was a bad thing, but i cant really think of any other good changes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 i wish stevie ray vaughan hadn't replaced eric clapton on that helicopter. yeah, i said it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Jason Isbell joining Drive-By Truckers.DBT dumping Jason Isbell. Eric Clapton replacing George Harrison in the Beatles - almost. That was John's suggestion after GH quit during Let It Be sessions). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 i wish stevie ray vaughan hadn't replaced eric clapton on that helicopter. yeah, i said it.Buddy Holly replacing Waylon Jennings on American Pie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Buddy Holly replacing Waylon Jennings on American Pie. definitely second that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boywiththorninside Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Sid Vicious replacing Glen Matlock Glen Matlock never would have inspired as many t-shirts or bio-pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 robert plant and john bonham joining the (new) yardbirds?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
random painted highway Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 booogilmore was a great guitar player but no love for syd? Plenty of love for Barrett. I don't think any band will ever pull off anything like "Astronomy Domine" ever again in the history of rock n' roll. His contributions made Pink Floyd's diverse discography even more awesome; it's so cool that one band could have not one, but two visionary guitarists and songwriters. But if Barrett remained the lead man, I don't think "Meddle" or "Dark Side" could have ever happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cusacker Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Plenty of love for Barrett. I don't think any band will ever pull off anything like "Astronomy Domine" ever again in the history of rock n' roll. His contributions made Pink Floyd's diverse discography even more awesome; it's so cool that one band could have not one, but two visionary guitarists and songwriters. But if Barrett remained the lead man, I don't think "Meddle" or "Dark Side" could have ever happened. ...or wish you were here for that matter, and i think many of the more hardcore floyd fans would argue that WYWH was floyd's best work (post-barrett), not dark side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 i wish stevie ray vaughan hadn't replaced eric clapton on that helicopter. yeah, i said it. I was bannerated from an online music board for two weeks for voicing a similar opinion. SRV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
awatt Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 Not really a line up change, but do think that Roy Bittan playing piano on Making Movies made it the best Dire Straits release. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Long Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Effing David Gilmour replacing Syd Barrett! Gilmour is an amazing vocalist and guitarist. Syd...wasn't that good musically. Or lyrically. "I'm a poet, and I know it..." etc. I really think that Gilmour's addition to Pink Floyd is the only reason they became who were remember them as today. Also, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker slowly fire every founding member of Steely Dan except themselves... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
random painted highway Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 ...or wish you were here for that matter, and i think many of the more hardcore floyd fans would argue that WYWH was floyd's best work (post-barrett), not dark side. "Dark Side" is semi-underrated purely because it's overrated. It's got such a populist reception for those unfamiliar with Floyd, it being the stoner's dream album, the wizard of oz coinciding, and so forth. But all the baggage aside, I think the album is a wonderful cosmic moment, of everything in the past coming together in perfect harmony. What was especially good was that the songwriting credits almost entirely split evenly. As albums, I think Meddle and WYWH are overrated; some kind of lagging mid-sections. But as songs, "Echoes" and "Shine On" probably do as much as some of their entire albums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 I rather like Echoes - except for the scary noisy part. And I think Fat Old Sun is a pretty cool song also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Traffic changed quite a bit when they added Reebop Kwaku Baah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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