nodep5 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Man you guys are tough! Granted I'm nothing close to a die hard Jayhawks fan. I own everyting they have done, but I never lived and breathed them. I really got interested around Sound of Lies and Smile. I know that is bass ackwards. Anyway, I think Sound of Lies is really strong when you dive into it, and I'm not sure what stupid lyrics piss you off, but there are no new Son Volt Jay Farrar stupid lyrics on there IMHO. Also Ten Little Kids is sweet and playful. Cmon guys, it's only rock and roll. I kid, OH, the new album was meant to be a Simon and Garfunkel type thing and so it is quite and slow but with a few exceptions these are some solid tunes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 oh i don't HATE those records by any means, but they don't hold up to the Jayhawks best work is all, and a big portion of that is the late 90's glossy sheen on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Man you guys are tough! Granted I'm nothing close to a die hard Jayhawks fan. I own everyting they have done, but I never lived and breathed them. I really got interested around Sound of Lies and Smile. I know that is bass ackwards. Anyway, I think Sound of Lies is really strong when you dive into it, and I'm not sure what stupid lyrics piss you off, but there are no new Son Volt Jay Farrar stupid lyrics on there IMHO. Also Ten Little Kids is sweet and playful. Cmon guys, it's only rock and roll. I kid, OH, the new album was meant to be a Simon and Garfunkel type thing and so it is quite and slow but with a few exceptions these are some solid tunes. I suppose if you started out with the first one, and then bought them in the order they were released, you might have a reaction similar to the way some people look at Sky Blue Sky.  Smile is really a Bob Ezrin record, and if you like his sound, I guess you can accept that record more easily. I am not a fan of his work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Anyway, I think Sound of Lies is really strong when you dive into it, and I'm not sure what stupid lyrics piss you offI didn't say they piss me off. They're just bad. Which ones? Pretty much all of them. There are a few rare exceptions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Peter Blackstock has an article about the ArtsCenter (Carrboro, NC) Gary and Mark show up at No Depression. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Saw the guys last night in Columbia MO. For someone who has only seen the later Jayhawks live, it was a nice evening to hear the earlier stuff live (esp in a stripped down setting). They played most of the new album with about 6 old Jayhawks tunes, one song off of Rainy Day, and one cover of I Still Miss Someone. Solid night, sounded great. I will note however that Mark Olson isn't much of a picker. Gary is a talent on guitar, but didn't know Mark was just an average player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 are these shows just the two of them on geetar? we're going saturday. very excited. any opener? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 yup, just Mark & Gary and for Mpls, i don't believe there is any opener Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 nice! so it'll be done early! i think sat starts at like 8. we were supposed to go to a party that night sounds like we can still make it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcarlile1 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I guess you Chicago people know that Autumn Defense is opening for Mark and Gary at the Park West tomorrow night... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sly like a Foxwell Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 i am 4ish hours away from seeing them. this should be good   ed : It was a great show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I guess you Chicago people know that Autumn Defense is opening for Mark and Gary at the Park West tomorrow night... They did???...oh yea....I remember.... The show was great. Mark and Gary were completely on, singng great, telling funny stories, etc. Nice time. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 saturday's show in mpls was great. one complaint though, marc's mic was so much louder. my fiancee said the same thing & she isn't a music nerd like most of us. other than that, it was well worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 saturday's show in mpls was great. one complaint though, marc's mic was so much louder. my fiancee said the same thing & she isn't a music nerd like most of us. other than that, it was well worth it. Same issue in Columbia, Marc's guitar and mic were both louder. Not terribly so, but enough for me to notice his sloppy guitar playing. Seriously though, this was a small quibble. They were on and put a nice evening of solid tunes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 it was perfect last night... Eric at the Varsity got it dead on (even Gary complimented him from the stage) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 circa early '95 Gary, Mark, Tim, Karen, Perlman (maybe a few other players, idk) same as in Spain last fall i must be one of the few people who find Rainy Day Music as my favorite post-Olson Jayhawks record...  sure Smile & Sound of Lies both have a few amazing songs (Think About It is a top 5 Jayhawks song for me...), but both were inconsistent. RDM maybe doesn't have the highs of those, but the overall sound and flow of it works very well for me. plus i adore Tim O's voice. yeah, tim's voice and gary's voices work well together. there is a continuity with that on rainy day music. RDM is about 4 songs too long though....like most records these days.    "See Him On the Street" and "Anne Jane" are also not on par....I've heard this record so often, I have a routine now of what songs I skip.  I agree about the Lennon/McCartney comparison. I have a sense that Olson (Lennon) writes better pure songs or structurally knows what goes into making a great song. And Louris (McCartney) has the pop sensibility, guitar chops and quirkiness in his song ideas to give songs life. But their ideas seem to work best when together.  nice elucidation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Tailspin is so gorgeous... and i can never get enough of Stumblin' Through The Dark and All The Right Reasons and while it's a total CSNY ripoff, i always dug Madman for some reason.  Madman is sooooooooo awesome. i just love that shit! 3 part harmony with just a guitar and minimal production. wish there was more music out there like that!  the other thing about RDM is that he production is so warm. love the way Johns makes the bass sound so 60s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 are these shows just the two of them on geetar? we're going saturday. very excited. any opener?  they have a woman playing minimal percussion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 not in mpls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 they have a woman playing minimal percussion. not in Columbia either Now don't be alarmed, but can anyone you went to the show with confirm the appearance of this women? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 lol. Karen Grotberg was at the Sat show but didn't play w/ them, and Tim & Perlman were there on Sun, but also no guests either night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sly like a Foxwell Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 i can confirm that the show i downloaded had minimal percussion, but no guests when they played here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'd say I like Rainy Day Music better than the two that came before it. I still prefer Hollywood Town Hall and Tomorrow The Green Grass over all of them though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 not in Columbia either Now don't be alarmed, but can anyone you went to the show with confirm the appearance of this women?   my wife and the sound man    no more neil avatar cortez? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 no more neil avatar cortez?Mixing it up. Going Neko in honor of Middle Cyclone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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