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Rays are set up better for long term than the Rockies, the Rays have much better starting pitching and a deeper farm system

Not really. They won't be able to pay all of these guys. I know the have Longoria tied up for cheap, but what about the rest of the team? Those boys will get paid, and it won't be by the Rays.

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I've already said that I realize how horrible the fans are here. They're really, really bad.

 

It still pisses me off when people say that there are no true Tampa Bay Rays fans. I've been going to that dump of a ballpark(yes, I know it sucks) for ten years since the team's inception. I own hats and shirts that bear the old logo and colors.

 

There are people that know baseball in the Tampa Bay area. We're few and far between, but we exist.

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I've already said that I realize how horrible the fans are here. They're really, really bad.

 

It still pisses me off when people say that there are no true Tampa Bay Rays fans. I've been going to that dump of a ballpark(yes, I know it sucks) for ten years since the team's inception. I own hats and shirts that bear the old logo and colors.

 

There are people that know baseball in the Tampa Bay area. We're few and far between, but we exist.

 

Do you know what the infield fly rule is?

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Im sure the 19 really die hard Rays fans really care but at the same time Im tired of hearing how long its been for their fan base, 10 years is not a long time, I'm a Texas Rangers and Detroit Lions fan, I know a little bit more than Rays fans about waiting for a championship run

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Bears and Cubs fan here. I was a tot when the Bears last won.

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Oh, now the truth comes out. You just hate women. You know I know a few gay red sox fans and they aren't nearly as obnoxious as you.

 

I don't hate women, but it sounds like you're not a big fan of gay people.

 

That's not very Massachusetts of you.

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Winning their fair share

 

Philadelphia Phillies fans have been waiting a long, long time for a World Series championship. It's been 28 years, a lifetime in many cases. It had been 15 years since the Phillies last won the National League. That's a lot of waiting.

 

But it's just about the right amount of time. It's roughly the Phillies' turn to win the Series. They're not overdue.

 

There are 30 teams in the majors, 16 in the National League and 14 in the American. If life were fair and success were distributed evenly and everybody won their fair share of championships, the Phillies and every other N.L. team would win one pennant every 16 years, one World Series every 30.

 

Life isn't fair. But the experience of Phillies fans, the feeling that they've been waiting so very, very long for the Phillies to win, shows that if life were fair, it wouldn't feel very fair.

 

It's true the Phillies brought some baggage to this 28-year stretch since their last World Series win. That 1980 championship was their first and before it their only two pennants in the World Series era, which began in 1903, had been won in 1915 and 1950. So the Phillies have a legacy of futility.

 

But unless you're old enough to remember as far back as the 1964 collapse, that legacy is more story than experience. In the lifetimes of adults who are under 50 -- which according to the Census Bureau is about two out of every three people over the age of 5 -- the Phillies have been a reasonably successful franchise, with a World Series win, four pennants and nine playoff appearances since 1976.

 

There was a playoff drought between 1993 and 2007, so the success of the last two years has been new to anyone in their early 20s and younger. There was no postseason in 1994 because of the strike. The Phillies' fair share of playoff appearances from 1995 to 2006 would have been three.

 

But in those 13 contested seasons between this Phillies pennant and the last one, six National League teams have gone without making the World Series. The Washington Nationals, Pittsburgh Pirates, Cincinnati Reds, Chicago Cubs, Milwaukee Brewers and Los Angeles Dodgers all send along their sympathy to the Phillies for having to wait so long to get back to the Fall Classic.

 

In the 26 contested seasons since the Phillies won their World Series in 1980, 13 teams have failed to win it all. The Phillies have been waiting a long time, but their wait has only been middle-of-the-pack.

 

And the citywide championship drought, dating to the last 76ers NBA title in 1983, doesn't earn Phillies fans any extra credit. If Red Sox and Cubs fans don't get their martyrdom marked down for all the championships won by the Celtics, Patriots, Bulls and Bears, Phillies fans don't win any points for also rooting for the Eagles, Flyers and Sixers.

 

The Tampa Bay Rays are also right on schedule in terms of winning the pennant. Playing in a 14-team league, they've won it in their 11th season. They're behind on playoff appearances. If success were distributed evenly, this would be their third time in October.

 

I've been fascinated by this idea of teams winning their fair share of titles and pennants and playoff appearances for a while. Because a few teams have so dominated baseball history -- the Yankees, A's, Red Sox, Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals and Cubs -- most teams have failed to win their fair share of the time. And because those successful franchises have set the standard, it feels like failure, like a long drought, when a team wins about its fair share of the time, as the Phillies have been doing for the last three decades or so.

 

Here is a chart showing how many pennants and World Series all 30 teams have won, compared to what their fair share would have been.

― King Kaufman

 

Posted in: Baseball

 

You can see the chart here:

http://www.salon.com/sports/daily/2008/10/...hart/index.html

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"If a soccer mom and a douchebag had a baby, then a bandwagon-jumper and an awkward creepy dude had a baby, then those two kids had a kid . . . that would be the Rays Nation DNA."

 

http://thesportsculture.com/2008/10/10/ray...l-lame-douches/

 

 

C'mon. That's funny.

 

I would never wanna be associated with either of those tools, but you gotta admit, just putting on a Boston Red Sox jersey doesn't automatically make a person some kind of great, knowledgeable baseball fan.

 

Or maybe you think it does.

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I've still got game seven of the ALCS on the DVR.

 

Red Sox came up very small. I'm sure Mike Lowell would have made the difference though.

 

I think if you keep this up you may actually win this argument.

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just putting on a Boston Red Sox jersey doesn't automatically make a person some kind of great, knowledgeable baseball fan.

 

Or maybe you think it does.

Plenty of tools in Red Sox shirts. But they're dedicated tools.

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I've still got game seven of the ALCS on the DVR.

 

Red Sox came up very small. I'm sure Mike Lowell would have made the difference though.

It's ok, man, there are a few good things about Tampa...

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Dude, you can try goading the red sox fans into arguing with you so you can take some sort of high ground on the ALCS but i am pretty sure it ain't gonna happen because we have bigger fish (pun intended) to fry. The Red Sox didn't win the ALCS. We got it. We were there. We saw the game. We accepted the outcome. No one is whining about how the "Red Sox was robbed" or that the DevilRays somehow cheated.

 

So, shut the fuck up already. Why don't you go get your blue cowbell and your jersey that still has the creases in it from being on the shelf for so long and get ready for tonight's game and let the grown ups talk about important stuff, like next season and free agents.

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I've still got game seven of the ALCS on the DVR.

 

Red Sox came up very small. I'm sure Mike Lowell would have made the difference though.

Yes. The Sox fell short this year. Honestly, I'm surprised they got as far as a Game 7 as they were absolutely stoic up until the 7th inning of Game 5.

 

I still don't think TB will squeeze past Philly, though, and am rooting for a Phillies victory.

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I love it, I had faith that people were paying attention here.

 

Baseball Bobblehead, you're really coming across as a despicable human being in this thread.

:lol

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I don't hate women, but it sounds like you're not a big fan of gay people.

 

That's not very Massachusetts of you.

 

 

I love it, I had faith that people were paying attention here.

 

Baseball Bobblehead, you're really coming across as a despicable human being in this thread.

You really seem to think you know a lot about people you don't know anything about.

 

Jesus, I was hoping the Rays would pull this one out, because I like their players (mostly), but I've definitely changed my mind. I can't imagine liking a team's fans less than I like Philadelphia fans, but now I think I do. Congrats!

 

Go Phils!

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