Congrats to President-Elect OBAMA

[Mrs. Peel]

are you accusing Obama of child abuse?

 

I feel like I should get this, but I don't. Was Bing Crosby accused of child abuse or something?

[sweetheart-mine]

Has this new Obama ad been posted yet?

 

it's a good one! thanks for posting.

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

Did you see the SNL skit?

Nope. I'll look it up, though.

[mpolak21]

I feel like I should get this, but I don't. Was Bing Crosby accused of child abuse or something?

 

Yeah, his son Gary wrote a memoir about Bing's abusive tendencies. I only know of this because Family Guy made a joke about it and I looked it up.

 

--Mike

[hazel]

i can't wait until this is over. i am so sick of the words maverick, spread the wealth, socialist, terrorist, TESTED!, MY FRIENDS!, joe the fu*king plumber, measuring the drapes, mccains penguin voice and creepy smile, palins finger nails on a chalk board voice. sweet relief is just a few more days away.

[Mrs. Peel]

Yeah, his son Gary wrote a memoir about Bing's abusive tendencies. I only know of this because Family Guy made a joke about it and I looked it up.

 

--Mike

 

Ahhhh, thank you!!!

[MattZ]

i love hendrik hertzberg. i'd go searching for him immediately if he weren't always already up front, where he belongs.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Analogman]

i can't wait until this is over. i am so sick of the words maverick, spread the wealth, socialist, terrorist, TESTED!, MY FRIENDS!, joe the fu*king plumber, measuring the drapes, mccains penguin voice and creepy smile, palins finger nails on a chalk board voice. sweet relief is just a few more days away.

 

And this bullshit:

 

McCain renews attacks on Obama links to radical

 

by Rob Woollard Rob Woollard

[quarter23cd]

"I don't care much about an old, washed-up unrepentant terrorist, and his wife who was on an FBI top 10 wanted list," McCain said.

...but let me tell you why I care so much about it.

[sweetheart-mine]

i can't wait until this is over. i am so sick of the words maverick, spread the wealth, socialist, terrorist, TESTED!, MY FRIENDS!, joe the fu*king plumber, measuring the drapes, mccains penguin voice and creepy smile, palins finger nails on a chalk board voice. sweet relief is just a few more days away.

 

i'm with ya 100%. it's the sickest campaign i've ever seen, and i've seen many. last night the guy at the end of rachel maddow's show had a list of how to handle "election stress." wish i'd written them down. all i remember are the first and the last:

 

1. stay away from the computer, the tv, and the newspaper.

 

5. change the subject and go camping.

[LouieB]

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And this bullshit:

From the unrepentent bomber of North Vietnam....

 

LouieB

[hazel]

mccain is such a hypocrite, i can't stand him

[quarter23cd]

1. stay away from the computer, the tv, and the newspaper.

5. change the subject and go camping.

That's some good advice.

[bobbob1313]

From the unrepentent bomber of North Vietnam....

 

LouieB

 

You mean the dude following orders and doing his job.

[jakobnicholas]

Obama

[Analogman]

From the unrepentent bomber of North Vietnam....

 

LouieB

 

Did you once say you were here:

 

On April 24, 1971, John Denver sang "The Strangest Dream" at a peace march in Washington DC. The anti-war march was to protest the Vietnam War. The song, written by Ed McCurdy, was one of the anthems of the anti-war era.

 

April 24th 1971 Peace March Against the War in Vietnam

[embiggen]

The first trillion-dollar deficit will be run in the first year of an Obama presidency.

 

 

gee, who left us with this trillion-dollar deficit??? it certainly wasn't Bill Clinton. when he left office, we had a surplus. remember that?

 

[jenbobblehead]

You mean the dude following orders and doing his job.

Did you read that rolling stone article about McCain that I posted about five election threads ago?

[sweetheart-mine]

Did you once say you were here:

 

On April 24, 1971, John Denver sang "The Strangest Dream" at a peace march in Washington DC. The anti-war march was to protest the Vietnam War. The song, written by Ed McCurdy, was one of the anthems of the anti-war era.

 

April 24th 1971 Peace March Against the War in Vietnam

 

i bet he was . . . ?

 

i was there but too far away to hear this, what must have been denver's finest moment. thank you so much for posting this. i never did get to really hear it until just now. where is my kleenex.

[Analogman]

i bet he was . . . ?

 

i was there but too far away to hear this, what must have been denver's finest moment. thank you so much for posting this. i never did get to really hear it until just now. where is my kleenex.

 

The dude has some good songs - I am a bit biased, lol. He also spoke out against the PMRC.

[LouieB]

Did you once say you were here:

 

On April 24, 1971, John Denver sang "The Strangest Dream" at a peace march in Washington DC. The anti-war march was to protest the Vietnam War. The song, written by Ed McCurdy, was one of the anthems of the anti-war era.

 

April 24th 1971 Peace March Against the War in Vietnam

I was in Washington on November 15, 1969 and then again in the spring after the invasion of Cambodia. I was in England when this was going on. This is getting to be so long ago, I nearly said yes....

 

This demo was the last big one before the war ended as I recall. This is a great song.....

 

LouieB

[mfwahl]

Obama

[Analogman]

I was in Washington on November 15, 1969 and then again in the spring after the invasion of Cambodia. I was in England when this was going on. This is getting to be so long ago, I nearly said yes....

 

LouieB

 

Oh, that's right.

[solace]

some choice Pat Buchanan quotes:

 

After Sen. Carol Moseley Braun blocked a federal patent for a Confederate flag insignia, Buchanan wrote that she was "putting on an act" by associating the Confederacy with slavery: "The War Between the States was about independence, about self-determination, about the right of a people to break free of a government to which they could no longer give allegiance," Buchanan asserted. "How long is this endless groveling before every cry of 'racism' going to continue before the whole country collectively throws up?" (syndicated column, 7/28/93)

 

On race relations in the late 1940s and early 1950s: "There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'negroes' of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours." (Right from the Beginning, Buchanan's 1988 autobiography, p. 131)

 

Buchanan, who opposed virtually every civil rights law and court decision of the last 30 years, published FBI smears of Martin Luther King Jr. as his own editorials in the St. Louis Globe Democrat in the mid-1960s. "We were among Hoover's conduits to the American people," he boasted (Right from the Beginning, p. 283).

 

White House advisor Buchanan urged President Nixon in an April 1969 memo not to visit "the Widow King" on the first anniversary of Martin Luther King's assassination, warning that a visit would "outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse.... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history." (New York Daily News, 10/1/90)

 

In a memo to President Nixon, Buchanan suggested that "integration of blacks and whites -- but even more so, poor and well-to-do -- is less likely to result in accommodation than it is in perpetual friction, as the incapable are placed consciously by government side by side with the capable." (Washington Post, 1/5/92)

 

In another memo from Buchanan to Nixon: "There is a legitimate grievance in my view of white working-class people that every time, on every issue, that the black militants loud-mouth it, we come up with more money.... If we can give 50 Phantoms [jet fighters] to the Jews, and a multi-billion dollar welfare program for the blacks...why not help the Catholics save their collapsing school system." (Boston Globe, 1/4/92)

 

Buchanan has repeatedly insisted that President Reagan did so much for African-Americans that civil rights groups have no reason to exist: "George Bush should have told the [NAACP convention] that black America has grown up; that the NAACP should close up shop, that its members should go home and reflect on JFK's admonition: 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but rather ask what you can do for your country.'" (syndicated column, 7/26/88)

 

In a column sympathetic to ex-Klansman David Duke, Buchanan chided the Republican Party for overreacting to Duke and his Nazi "costume": "Take a hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, [such as] reverse discrimination against white folks." (syndicated column, 2/25/89)

 

Trying to justify apartheid in South Africa, he denounced the notion that "white rule of a black majority is inherently wrong. Where did we get that idea? The Founding Fathers did not believe this." (syndicated column, 2/7/90) He referred admiringly to the apartheid regime as the "Boer Republic": "Why are Americans collaborating in a U.N. conspiracy to ruin her with sanctions?" (syndicated column, 9/17/89)

 

"There is nothing wrong with us sitting down and arguing that issue that we are a European country." (Newsday, 11/15/92)

 

Buchanan on affirmative action: "How, then, can the feds justify favoring sons of Hispanics over sons of white Americans who fought in World War II or Vietnam?" (syndicated column, 1/23/95)

 

In a September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition, Buchanan described multiculturalism as "an across-the-board assault on our Anglo-American heritage."

 

"If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?" ("This Week With David Brinkley," 1/8/91)

 

Buchanan referred to Capitol Hill as "Israeli-occupied territory." (St. Louis Post Dispatch, 10/20/90)

 

During the Gulf crisis: "There are only two groups that are beating the drums for war in the Middle East -- the Israeli defense ministry and its 'amen corner' in the United States." ("McLaughlin Group," 8/26/90)

 

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path." (The Guardian, 1/14/92)

 

Writing of "group fantasies of martyrdom," Buchanan challenged the historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel exhaust at Treblinka: "Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody." (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan's columns have run in the Liberty Lobby's Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist concoction.

 

Buchanan called for closing the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals, because it was "running down 70-year-old camp guards." (New York Times, 4/21/87)

 

Buchanan was vehement in pushing President Reagan -- despite protests -- to visit Germany's Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi SS troops were buried. At a White House meeting, Buchanan reportedly reminded Jewish leaders that they were "Americans first" -- and repeatedly scrawled the phrase "Succumbing to the pressure of the Jews" in his notebook. Buchanan was credited with crafting Ronald Reagan's line that the SS troops buried at Bitburg were "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps." (New York Times, 5/16/85; New Republic, 1/22/96)

 

After Cardinal O'Connor criticized anti-Semitism during the controversy over construction of a convent near Auschwitz, Buchanan wrote: "If U.S. Jewry takes the clucking appeasement of the Catholic cardinalate as indicative of our submission, it is mistaken. When Cardinal O'Connor of New York seeks to soothe the always irate Elie Wiesel by reassuring him 'there are many Catholics who are anti-Semitic'...he speaks for himself. Be not afraid, Your Eminence; just step aside, there are bishops and priests ready to assume the role of defender of the faith." (New Republic, 10/22/90)

 

The Buchanan '96 campaign's World Wide Web site included an article blaming the death of White House aide Vincent Foster on the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad -- and alleging that Foster and Hillary Clinton were Mossad spies. (The campaign removed the article after its existence was reported by a Jewish on-line news service; Jewish Telegraphic Agency, 2/21/96.)

 

In his September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition, Buchanan declared: "Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free." (ADL Report, 1994)

 

In a 1972 memo to Richard Nixon, Buchanan referred to one of George McGovern's leading financial contributors as a "screaming fairy." (Newsday, 2/8/89) Buchanan has repeatedly used the term "sodomites," and has referred to gays as "the pederast proletariat." (Washington Post, 2/9/92)

 

"Homosexuality involves sexual acts most men consider not only immoral, but filthy. The reason public men rarely say aloud what most say privately is they are fearful of being branded 'bigots' by an intolerant liberal orthodoxy that holds, against all evidence and experience, that homosexuality is a normal, healthy lifestyle." (syndicated column, 9/3/89)

 

In a 1977 column urging a "thrashing" of gay groups, Buchanan wrote: "Homosexuality is not a civil right. Its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the Weimar Republic, with a decay of society and a collapse of its basic cinder block, the family." (New Republic, 3/30/92)

 

"Gay rights activists seek to substitute, for laws rooted in Judeo-Christian morality, laws rooted in the secular humanist belief that all consensual sexual acts are morally equal. That belief is anti-biblical and amoral; to codify it into law is to codify a lie." (Buchanan column in Wall Street Journal, 1/21/93)

 

On AIDS, Buchanan wrote in 1983: "The poor homosexuals -- they have declared war upon nature, and now nature is extracting an awful retribution (AIDS)." (Los Angeles Times, 11/28/86) Later that year, he demanded that New York City Ed Koch and New York Gov. Mario Cuomo cancel the Gay Pride Parade or else "be held personally responsible for the spread of the AIDS plague." "With 80,000 dead of AIDS, our promiscuous homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on Satanism and suicide," Buchanan wrote in 1990 (syndicated column, 10/17/90). In the 1992 campaign, he declared: "AIDS is nature's retribution for violating the laws of nature." (Seattle Times, 7/31/93)

 

"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism." (syndicated column, 11/22/83)

 

Attacking what he considers the "democratist temptation, the worship of democracy as a form of governance," Buchanan commented: "Like all idolatries, democratism substitutes a false god for the real, a love of process for a love of country." (Patrick J. Buchanan: From the Right, newsletter, Spring/90)

 

In a January, 1991 column, Buchanan suggested that "quasi-dictatorial rule" might be the solution to the problems of big municipalities and the federal fiscal crisis: "If the people are corrupt, the more democracy, the worse the government." (Washington Times, 1/9/91) He has written disparagingly of the "one man, one vote Earl Warren system."

 

In Right from the Beginning, Buchanan refers to Spanish dictator Francisco Franco as a "Catholic savior." He called Franco, along with Chile's Gen. Pinochet, "soldier-patriots." (syndicated column 9/17/89) Both men overthrew democracy in their countries.

 

Buchanan devotes a chapter of his autobiography -- "As We Remember Joe" -- to defending Senator Joe McCarthy. He advocated that Nixon "burn the tapes" during Watergate, and he criticized Reagan for failing to pardon Oliver North over Iran-contra.

[LouieB]

i bet he was . . . ?

 

i was there but too far away to hear this, what must have been denver's finest moment. thank you so much for posting this. i never did get to really hear it until just now. where is my kleenex.

Sadly I wasn't at this particular one. This is a great old song actually. It had been around for several years. I remember singing it around campfires. (Gawd those were the good old days...)

 

LouieB