Sir Stewart Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 i think the cheese factor was totally intentional. all xmas albums are like that. Exception to the rule: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 This is a damn enjoyable album. Dylan sounds like he's having a hell of a good time recording these, and it resonates with me. Obviously not a classic, but an album that made me smile throughout. I'm not even gonna consider ranking/scoring it. It is what it is, and it's good for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 There was an interview with Jakob Dylan in Rolling Stone a few years back where he was asked about his dad, and he said something to the effect of "People really take him for granted, they don't realize that you're not always going to be lucky enough to be living in the age of a Bob Dylan. It probably won't be until he's been gone for a hundred years that they'll recognize what he was." It's stuck with me because it is probably true. A hundred years from now Dylan will be on the same level as Shakespeare. His work will be independent of this era, of his contemporaries. At some point even his "minor" albums will be the subject of more focus than we can imagine. So while it's easy to talk crap about MT and TTL and this Christmas album, I recognize that it's also a luxury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 There was an interview with Jakob Dylan in Rolling Stone a few years back where he was asked about his dad, and he said something to the effect of "People really take him for granted, they don't realize that you're not always going to be lucky enough to be living in the age of a Bob Dylan. It probably won't be until he's been gone for a hundred years that they'll recognize what he was." It's stuck with me because it is probably true. A hundred years from now Dylan will be on the same level as Shakespeare. His work will be independent of this era, of his contemporaries. At some point even his "minor" albums will be the subject of more focus than we can imagine. So while it's easy to talk crap about MT and TTL and this Christmas album, I recognize that it's also a luxury.I can agree with this. Dylan is more than just a singer, and more than just a songwriter. Everyone who has written a song since he came out owes a huge debt to him. It's hard to think that the most critically acclaimed rock musician of all time will only continue to grow in stature, but I can definitely see it happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Frank Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 There was an interview with Jakob Dylan in Rolling Stone a few years back where he was asked about his dad, and he said something to the effect of "People really take him for granted, they don't realize that you're not always going to be lucky enough to be living in the age of a Bob Dylan. It probably won't be until he's been gone for a hundred years that they'll recognize what he was." It's stuck with me because it is probably true. A hundred years from now Dylan will be on the same level as Shakespeare. His work will be independent of this era, of his contemporaries. At some point even his "minor" albums will be the subject of more focus than we can imagine. So while it's easy to talk crap about MT and TTL and this Christmas album, I recognize that it's also a luxury.This, Sir, is the most acurate and correct statement that will be made on this site today (Thats coming from someone who's just admitted he doesn't like the Beatles!!!). Dylan will, along with the Beatles and probably Michael Jackson, be remember through the ages. They will be studying him in English classes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 This, Sir, is the most acurate and correct statement that will be made on this site today (Thats coming from someone who's just admitted he doesn't like the Beatles!!!). Dylan will, along with the Beatles and probably Michael Jackson, be remember through the ages. They will be studying him in English classes.Was Michael Jackson a musician?? I have ALREADY forgotten. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 It's stuck with me because it is probably true. A hundred years from now Dylan will be on the same level as Shakespeare. That sounds like a quote from the Robert Shelton book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Frank Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Was Michael Jackson a musician?? I have ALREADY forgotten. LouieBI agree with you.....but I think the wider world will continue to remember Jackson for many years to come whether he deserves it or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Michael Jackson won't be remembered in the same way as Dylan/the Beatles. He'll be remembered for being an icon, and the definition of strange. Dylan and the Beatles will be remembered for changing pop music. Dylan will be remembered for changing songwriting in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 That sounds like a quote from the Robert Shelton book. Never read it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Never read it. I think there is a line in the book that says about what you said there. You should read that book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I think there is a line in the book that says about what you said there. You should read that book. I should do a lot of stuff. Anyway, I didn't think it was the most original thought I ever had. Probably picked it up from someone who heard it from someone who read the book... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I should do a lot of stuff. Anyway, I didn't think it was the most original thought I ever had. Probably picked it up from someone who heard it from someone who read the book... Oh, I was not busting on you. I think you would like that book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 No, I got you. It's just I started looking up that book then stopped myself. Priorities, I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Moss Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 To be a fly on that wall. I'm guessing they are writing "If not for you" in this picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 To be a fly on that wall. I'm guessing they are writing "If not for you" in this picture. You may be exactly right, who knows. Got it here: http://www.punkhart.com/dylan/tapes/70-may1.html I've never heard of this session. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 They recorded a whole album together that never came out. That is most likely Dylan's first or second home in Woodstock. I do not know which one it is. The kid in the photo is Jakob Dylan (or is it Jesse?). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I was given some of this session, but clearly it is not the entire thing, because I don't have most of those titles. Some day it WILL come out, everything does. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Good a place to ask this as any: that's just gotta be Bobby blowing the harp on 'Apple Scruffs', right? I mean, who the hell else? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 According to the liner notes, it was George. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Good a place to ask this as any: that's just gotta be Bobby blowing the harp on 'Apple Scruffs', right? I mean, who the hell else?You could be right, but I think George probably figured out how to play harmonica well enough to do that. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 It's probably really George yeah, but I just can't get enough of my mental image of Dylan blowing away standing next to George as that song's being recorded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Probably George but you never know.... Bob's finger prints are all over that album and, for years, Clapton went uncredited on George's records (and vice versa, I believe).. so maybe Bob did too. Maybe... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 So Zimmy's playing three nights in Boston come mid-November. I'm not interested in the shows ($$$) as much as the opportunity to catch a glimpse of the Song and Dance Man as he's camped in Beantown for a long weekend (shows are Fri, Sat & Sun). Maybe the time of year will stir in him some Rolling Thunder vibes - I'd better tune up the car for a trip to Lowell or Plymouth... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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