junkiesmile Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I always thought Either Way was lame in a sissified kind of way. It's a little to breezy for an album opener. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Queen Amaranthine Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 It seems to be about the change of pace from previous albums. When it was first released, I had a really hard time getting into it, but for some reason I felt like trying it again a few months ago and it's been a frequent flyer in my car CD player ever since. Some songs' lyrics are more simple in some of the songs than in previous albums, so that might be a factor too. There isn't quite as much of the poetic essence. Initially maybe that was part of my inability to appreciate it at first--it's hard to say. Now I think it's lovely. I actually like the songs mentioned above. The idea in Leave Me, of not wanting to be scarred or shaken up in whatever way by a relationship, is a powerful theme for anyone who's come out a horrendous relationship and weren't quite the same for a long time. The lyrics might be simplistic for the most part, but the last few lines are classic poetic Tweedy. As for Either Way, it's that sense of letting things be and accepting what happens without pushing it in a way that convolutes things. The sun will shine--life will go on--either way, no matter how one feels. It brings to mind a Flaming Lips lyric, "The universe will have its way." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkiesmile Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 It seems to be about the change of pace from previous albums. When it was first released, I had a really hard time getting into it, but for some reason I felt like trying it again a few months ago and it's been a frequent flyer in my car CD player ever since. Some songs' lyrics are more simple in some of the songs than in previous albums, so that might be a factor too. There isn't quite as much of the poetic essence. Initially maybe that was part of my inability to appreciate it at first--it's hard to say. Now I think it's lovely.That's it exactly. "it's lovely". Wilco before had been so much more than "lovely". There was weight behind it all. Gravitas. I feel that more in the new album. Some heft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLewis222 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 It seems to be about the change of pace from previous albums. When it was first released, I had a really hard time getting into it, but for some reason I felt like trying it again a few months ago and it's been a frequent flyer in my car CD player ever since. Some songs' lyrics are more simple in some of the songs than in previous albums, so that might be a factor too. There isn't quite as much of the poetic essence. Initially maybe that was part of my inability to appreciate it at first--it's hard to say. Now I think it's lovely. I actually like the songs mentioned above. The idea in Leave Me, of not wanting to be scarred or shaken up in whatever way by a relationship, is a powerful theme for anyone who's come out a horrendous relationship and weren't quite the same for a long time. The lyrics might be simplistic for the most part, but the last few lines are classic poetic Tweedy. As for Either Way, it's that sense of letting things be and accepting what happens without pushing it in a way that convolutes things. The sun will shine--life will go on--either way, no matter how one feels. It brings to mind a Flaming Lips lyric, "The universe will have its way." Can't we look at it objectively? I know I can look at it subjectively and still say SBS is the best, but since it is a little different than YHF and AGIB it sucks for you guys? No no no. This is a beautiful CD. The worst songs are the last two, but they don't suck. Everything else is unreal in my eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Queen Amaranthine Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I can't look at much objectively! Tell us, when did you get into Wilco? It seems that old-timers are least likely to get into SBS, while those who found the band through SBS have special love for it. Totally understandable! For me, the last 2 songs are great, and I'm arguably one of the few who adores What Light. It's Side w/ the Seeds and Shake It Off that I would rate lowest, but that's just me and my quirky likes & dislikes. I love the rest of it, even though it took me so long to get it. No, it doesn't suck at all, far from it. But for some--and I can't speak for everyone, of course, but based on what I read here and my own initial reaction to the album--it might be that shift from YHF and AGIB that is hard to...well, shake off, to use part of a song title. I joined this board during the YHF era and remember a few still grumbling about the ST and YHF shift from A.M. and Being There, so it's just a matter of time, perspective, and individual tastes. So, either way.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LaughingDog Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 ...I'm going to stay right, with Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 http://viachicago.org/topic/45984-sky-blue-sky-confession-of-a-relatively-new-fan/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Love Sky Blue Sky. And I've been listening to Wilco since Being There was issued. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I am going to suggest that nobody 'hates' SBS. Like WTA and AM (and TWL?), SBS has to be judged against BT-ST-YHF-AGiB. That is a remarkable run of records and any followup is going to suffer due in comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Oh... there's some hate. I love it, but I understand their POV. YHF and AGIB are fantastically weird. SBS is pretty damn normal. I don't think anyone was expecting that record when Nels came aboard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Oh... there's some hate. I love it, but I understand their POV. YHF and AGIB are fantastically weird. SBS is pretty damn normal. I don't think anyone was expecting that record when Nels came aboard. Pitchfork was, but who gives a hoot about their opinion? Not me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I still dislike Sky Blue Sky outside of the BT-ST-YHF comparisons. If Sky Blue Sky were my first Wilco album, it would not impress me. Sky Blue Sky sounded like a bad copy of an Eagles record, and much more sedate. There's a difference between simplicity and trite sentimentality. I wish they found a different way to approach this entire album. I wouldn't say that everyone hates it since you obviously like it, but there's some amount of dislike and disapproval. And for anyone that's ever liked music (or any of it for the matter), looking at music objectively is almost impossible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLewis222 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Oh... there's some hate. I love it, but I understand their POV. YHF and AGIB are fantastically weird. SBS is pretty damn normal. I don't think anyone was expecting that record when Nels came aboard. "Shake It Off" is pretty goofy, although it sounds like it isn't loved on this board. Personally, I really fuckin love it. Let it be known also that I listen to A Ghost Is Born and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot quite often and I still prefer Sky Blue Sky. I got into them in 2007 as that album came out, so maybe that is why my opinion is different...or because its a great album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I became a Wilco fan in late 2005. As a result, when SBS came out I was still absorbing the back catalog and it was all very fresh and exciting to me. A Ghost Is Born was (and is) my favorite, so you can guess what direction I wanted to see Wilco to continue in. When SBS came out I was incredibly disappointed. It was verging on depressing for me - that this band I had recently fallen in love with let me down. There were two main problems for me. 1. As a 24 year old I couldn't relate to much of the sentiment in the album. 2. It seemed like Wilco had gone soft on me. However, I kept listening. Once the shock wore off I spent some time with the album and came to appreciate its beauty. To this day I think SBS is a lovely, elegant album. Not my favorite, but still essential to the Wilco catalog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Theremin Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 First 6 songs and the closing track are as good as anything as they've done and unlike W(TA) it actually feels like Tweedy has something to say. That being said, What Light is not just the worst Wilco song, it's probably the worst song of all time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
almostART36 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 One of my favorite Wilco albums...some days I put it right behind YHF. I find myself listening to it again and again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Second worst Wilco album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 It's my 7th favorite Wilco album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Second worst Wilco album.This being said, tracks 1-5 and 12 are among Wilco's very finest moments. Just shows how ridiculously uneven SBS is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 It's my 7th favorite Wilco album. Second worst Wilco album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 personally, if it came out as a live album, i'd like it. but it sounds too dry on CD..... and i hate Hell is Chrome and not that big on ALTWYS... SBS came as a breath of fresh air! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLewis222 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Second worst Wilco album.It's my 7th favorite Wilco album. Awesome guys thank you for reading the initial question and answering why you don't like the album. Your words have spoken volumes on the topic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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augurus Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Awesome guys thank you for reading the initial question and answering why you don't like the album. Your words have spoken volumes on the topic.I already answered why in an earlier post. So yeah, thank you for reading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLewis222 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I already answered why in an earlier post. So yeah, thank you for reading. oooooo touche Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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