IRememberDBoon Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 get bent Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 those points at the bottom of that Biden picture dont really make any senseAre they true? Link to post Share on other sites
The High Heat Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 get bentHow so? Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 ^^ That was a weird exchange. Be nice Boon, Jules was just asking a question. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 get bentHow so? Clever. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Great thread. Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 why explain to Jules why they dont make any sense. Any lamebrained pete can see why they dont correlate to the points the Vice President made. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 It's interesting how it says "Biden never voted against funding either war." A double negative is usually a sign of rookery, tom-foolery and shenanigans (or as Joe would say 'Malarkey'). You're right Boon, that is some weird wording. But to be fair, my lamebrain didn't sus that out until you mentioned it more clearly. Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky speaks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Biden, Ryan, Obama, Romney, Bush = Same Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 This is a really good article about what Romney, or Obama would actually do about the economy after the election. http://nymag.com/news/politics/elections-2012/obama-romney-economic-plans-2012-10/index2.html Here is how it will happen. On the morning of November 7, a reelected President Obama will do … nothing. For the next 53 days, nothing. And then, on January 1, 2013, we will all awake to a different, substantially more liberal country. The Bush tax cuts will have disappeared, restoring Clinton-era tax rates and flooding government coffers with revenue to fund its current operations for years to come. The military will be facing dire budget cuts that shake the military-industrial complex to its core. It will be a real-world approximation of the old liberal bumper-sticker fantasy in which schools have all the money they require and the Pentagon needs to hold a bake sale. All this can come to pass because, while Obama has spent the last two years surrendering short-term policy concessions, he has been quietly hoarding a fortune in the equivalent of a political trust fund that comes due on the first of the year. At that point, he will reside in a political world he finds at most mildly uncomfortable and the Republicans consider a hellish dystopia. Then he’ll be ready to make a deal. Leading up to the New Year, there will be a concerted effort to preempt this policy shift, by bringing the two parties together to consummate a version of the endlessly touted (but little-understood) Bowles-Simpson agreement that GOP House members rejected. This is already under way, and is being described in the press as a noble bipartisan effort to avoid something terrible. But it is more accurately understood to be a conservative attempt to avoid a massive shift in leverage in Obama’s favor. Some Democrats get this. (Charles Schumer is one of the few willing to take a hard-ass line against Bowles-Simpson). I also believe that, despite his silence on the matter, Obama gets it, too. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sorry to cut and paste, but I found this section particularly curious: This is all utterly wrong. Bipartisan agreement is not necessary to fix the debt. Nothing is necessary to fix the debt. It is as if the network of activists, wonks, business leaders, and Beltway elder statesmen who have devoted themselves to building cross-party support for a deficit deal have grown more attached to the means of bipartisanship than to the ends for which it was intended. The budget deficit is a legislatively solved problem. It is, indeed, an oversolved problem. In the absence of any agreement between the president and Congress, the deficit will shrink to less than one percent of the economy by 2018, and remain below that level through 2022. The budget deficit declines so sharply and so drastically, and in ways that neither party is entirely comfortable with, that the task for Washington is to pull back on deficit reduction. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Biden, Ryan, Obama, Romney, Bush = SameI guess you are done now too.....But you forgot Gary Johnson, pretty much the same too and a closet Republican. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky speaks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 At least you've heard of him. I'm undecided about him. I didn't really pay much attention to him when Ron Paul was still active. But you are probably correct in your assessment. The Presidential Campaigns Know What You're Reading Online http://news.yahoo.com/presidential-campaigns-know-youre-reading-online-010422823.html Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 So give it up. With three weeks to go, you voting for no one? Not only have I heard of him (I am relatively well informed....) but he showed up on one of the faux news shows awhile back, maybe the Daily Show. For the longest time CPUSA ran Gus Hall and all the other leftwing groups ran someone, just like the Greens always run someone. There are plenty of third party candidates this year I am sure. As usualy they have no money and also no new ideas. Let's hope Gary Johnson stays in the race, because it is going to help Obama in some states. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 why explain to Jules why they dont make any sense. Any lamebrained pete can see why they dont correlate to the points the Vice President made. They definitely correlate. Maybe loosely, but they still correlate. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Rosanne Barr is going to be the dark horse in this "race" on her Peace & Freedom platform. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 This site tells you who to vote for - take the survey. Turns out I should be voting for Green Party. huh. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 This site tells you who to vote for - take the survey. Turns out I should be voting for Green Party. huh. Those sites are always interesting. I remember looking at a lot of them four years ago. According to this one, I side the most with Gary Johnson, with Romney and Obama neck-and-neck for second place. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 This site tells you who to vote for - take the survey. Turns out I should be voting for Green Party. huh. 91% Jill Stien - Green Party88% Barack Obama - Democrat76% Rocky Anderson - Justice Party61% Gary Johnson - Libertarian17% Mitt Romney - Republican About what I figured. Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Heh, I just made up a new word....Obamney. See, what I did is combine Obama with Romney. Ok, back to my fiddlin' while the world burns. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Heh, I just made up a new word....Obamney. See, what I did is combine Obama with Romney. Ok, back to my fiddlin' while the world burns. I think Rick Santorum used that in the Republican Debates. But he said Obameycare. Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 My results were: 92% Jill Stein84% Barack Obama73% Rocky Andersonand ... 6% Mitt Romney. I was sort of hoping for a goose egg. Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky speaks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Johnson 95% Well, I might have my man, Lou. But he's no Ron Paul. Goode 82% Who's he? Romney 82% (It probably depends on what position he was taking on the issues at the time the survey was concocted) Obama 56% There must still be a little socialist left in me. The 2012 US Presidential “Non-election”: Which Brand of “Fascism” this Time? No matter who “wins”, humanity loses. On one side, the Obama administration, and the traditional brand of neoliberal imperialism and international consensus, and false domestic populism. On the other side with Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, militant right-wing extremism, an apocalyptic war agenda and the politics of sadism at home.The interests of the elite (Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberger, etc.) is dutifully served with either Obama or Romney in the White House. The question for the elite is purely over style and execution.Obama has been a servile facilitator and protector of the political establishment; an insidious capitulator and “consensus man”. For Wall Street’s billionaires, the Pentagon’s warmongers, and Washington’s most shamelessly corrupt, there has been no greater gift than Obama and his presidency. But with Romney and Ryan, the agenda simply speeds up and destroys faster, more violently, with true theocratic maniacal fervor.The final choice will not be made by voters (who will be disenfranchised again, via electronic vote fraud and other manipulations), but by the criminal elements who seize final control of the apparatus over the final month of the “contest”.The “children” are being allowed to fight it out amongst themselves. The side with ultimate command of the corporate media propaganda, the most effective back door deals, and the most effective dirty tricks and election night shenanigans, will prevail, the pre-determined result promptly encrypted into the software of controlled Diebold voting machines. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2012-us-presidential-non-election-which-brand-of-fascism-this-time/5308307 Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky speaks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Heh, I just made up a new word....Obamney. See, what I did is combine Obama with Romney. Ok, back to my fiddlin' while the world burns. It's been around a few months... Link to post Share on other sites
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