Magnetized Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters There are some interesting and surprising choices here, but also some completely insane omissions. (No Townes Van Zandt??) And even though we could all question some of those included as well as the relative rankings, some of the inclusions are just objectively nuts. Have at it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 So they found room for Eminem, but not Nick Drake? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackberry Rust Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ugh, Rolling Stone. I really shouldn't expect that much, but really... Notable ommisions in bold: BECKDAVID BYRNELOUDON WAINWRIGHT IIIRICHARD THOMPSONSCOTT WALKERJOE STRUMMER/MICK JONESSONIC YOUTH also: Townes Van Zandt (totally agree as per above)Jason Molina (aka Songs: Ohia)Rodney CrowellCat PowerRufus WainwrightMartha WainwrightRobyn HitchcockGene ClarkeSyd BarrettGil Scott-Heron - could be argued this is beat-poetry, but the DNA of modern hip-hop is here along with The Last Poets.Coner Oberst (aka Bright Eyes)Bill Callaghan (aka Smog)I'd also wager that Jeff Tweedy is totally deserving of inclusion. Look no further than the 1999-2002 stretch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I knew I shouldn't have clicked the link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Tweedy is worthy, fer Chrissakes. NO GIL SCOTT HERON. Fucking blasphemy. No DONOVAN? The Pied Piper pf Peace? Really? RS should be beat senseless with a crowbar. Roger Waters/David Gilmour, anyone? I guess 800 fucking weeks on the Billboard charts (DSOTM) isn't worthy. Warren Zevon? I guess Page & Plant never wrote any tunes. Man, I need to calm the fuck down. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackberry Rust Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Tweedy is worthy, fer Chrissakes. NO GIL SCOTT HERON. Fucking blasphemy. No DONOVAN? The Pied Piper pf Peace? Really? RS should be beat senseless with a crowbar. Roger Waters/David Gilmour, anyone? I guess 800 fucking weeks on the Billboard charts (DSOTM) isn't worthy. Warren Zevon? I guess Page & Plant never wrote any tunes. Man, I need to calm the fuck down. LOL Such rage. I totally feel this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suites Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I thought the list was decent and diverse except no Page Plant. I thought RS was over the Zeppelin bashing. I guess old habits die hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 They have John and Paul, but noGEORGE HARRISON? Also, a notable omission, as long as they did include several non-rock songwriters, maybe the greatest songwriter of the 20th century:Cole Porter. Other omissions:Robert PollardStephen MerrittGene Clark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 They have John and Paul, but noGEORGE HARRISON? Also, a notable omission, as long as they did include several non-rock songwriters, maybe the greatest songwriter of the 20th century:Cole Porter. Other omissions:Robert PollardStephen MerrittGene ClarkHarrison was #65 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brownie Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 George Harrison is #65. And in response to Blackberry Rust, Strummer/Jones are #57. Frankly, I was more put off by the overwhelming number of ads for Apple Music embeded on that page than I was by the list itself. I also thought the list was decent. They obviously included overall impact of the songwriter when they were making their choices of who to include. Although many of the "notable omissions" you all have cited are among my favorite artists, many of them are not well-known to the mainstream and did not have great impact on the mainstream. Most, if not all, of the artists they chose have done high quality work AND had a big impact. I thought that list was one of Rollilng Stone's better lists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 George Harrison is #65.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6EP3Z0PSU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 this just goes to show how insanely stupid this list is: Buddy Holly was something like #29. he put out 2 LPs, and co-wrote 8 of the 23 songs on those records. he had sole writing credit for just one song ("Words Of Love"). yeah, that seems about right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm just worried about the riots when Taylor Swifts fans find out how low she is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Damon Albarn Rogers & Hammerstein? Patty Hill / Mildred J. Hill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I didn't read it, but did they do it the way they normally do these lists? Don't hey normally have a panel of musicians and critics put together lists and come up with some sort of concensus? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I didn't read it, but did they do it the way they normally do these lists? Don't hey normally have a panel of musicians and critics put together lists and come up with some sort of concendus?This time it was done completely by Apple, complete with links after each listing which will connect you directly with an opportunity to sign up for Apple Music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Don't read this shit people!!!! LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Don't read this shit people!!!! LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobDylan'sBeard Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's been amusing to watch RS fade into complete musical obscurity. What are they going to do in 20 years when all the acts they cover have passed away? Start covering bands from the '80s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 where was Robert Hunter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 he was lumped in w/ Jerry Garcia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 So, is Tweedy on this list? I am trying not to have to wade through it and get all pissed off by their selections. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Finally decided to look at this list and honestly there is not much to complain about here. This is really a post WWII list in general and ignores the great songwriters (like Cole Porter, the Gershwin brothers, etc) of the the great American songbook era. As usual it is just a Rolling Stone click bait kind of thing and nothing to get to upset about. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Fun list. Not sure about Lou being above Bowie. Glad to Kris on there. Dylan #1 is not surprising. I'm surprised they didn't put Lennon and McCartney together. Henley/Frey? Although I like the Eagles, Henley and Frey were masters at making it seem like they wrote good songs…when in reality, most of their hits were written by other people, co-written with other people or were Joe Walsh songs. The ones they did write were made awesome by the other band members, especially Felder, Walsh and Meisner. Felder's solo on One of These Nights! Hell, Felder wrote their most famous riff, Hotel California. Walsh wrote the second most famous, Life in the Fast Lane. Not too mention their albums were fairly strong because of the additions of Walsh and Timothy B. Schmit. The non-hit Frey/Henley songs were mostly terrible. Like most great bands, collaboration was the key to success. This has been played out many times, an example being Frey's solo output. Some of the worst songs ever recorded…Sexy Girl…ugh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Not sure about Lou being above Bowie. Performer? Bowie > LouSongwriter? Bowie Lou's solo output is uneven at best, but still lots of stellar stuff, the same could be said for Bowie. Lou could hardly do any wrong for the Velvets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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