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Amen. Great stuff, TheMaker. (P.S. I still disagree with you about Modern Times though )

Did you mean I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One? Or is this an album that I have not heard of? In which case, it's really underrated.

This is a debate that he does not care to be a part of.

So I guess what you are saying is that it's not all a big coincidence??

I have never read a harry potter book or seen a harry potter movie, but there was an interesting (and long) profile in the Aug 27, 2007 edition of The New Yorker on Sir Ian McKellen. He is gay and out of the closet. In real life, I mean. The New Yorker doesnt reproduce all of its articles online. You have to buy it if you want to read it, otherwise I'd post it (or suggest interested parties check it out). Is this all a big coincidence?

I don't care if supposably is really a word. Say supposedly. Idiot.

Point, counterpoint: http://www.slate.com/id/2176187/nav/tap3/

As high as my expectations were, is it possible that they were exceeded?

This is floating around in a thread in Just A Fan, but in case you haven't seen it over there... http://www.myspace.com/imnottheresoundtrack (hope its not bad etiquette to resurrect this thread here when it's in JAF)

http://www.myspace.com/imnottheresoundtrack Over and over again.

I assume cryptique means the national attention it is getting. I agree it's pretty ridiculous.

Testament to Youth in Verse!!! I hate that Carl usually sings that when they tour... Ballad of a Comeback Kid is great too (for me).

This really intrigued me so I started surfing around the web to learn more about it and I stumbled across this: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1446804/2...avies_ray.jhtml Apparently, they were recording together in the studio too. Some of the songs referenced in the article made it onto the album that he released last year. I really liked that album, but I dont think YLT recorded the album with him, right? Also, this article is from 2001. I know he had been working on the album for awhile, and that health issues sidelined him for awhile. Does anyone know anything more about this? Did

Happy birthday to one of the greats!!

Exactly. No argument from me. And if Frere-Jones doesnt like the bands he lists or the albums he lists because they don't swing, then fine. I have no argument with that. But YHF wasn't meant to sound like Otis Redding. Why write an article saying it doesn't? Is that some sort of revelation? If SFJ only has a taste for swing/space/bass, how did he become a music critic? Ok, ok, ok. I need to move on with my life here. As much as I hated the article, and as much as I dislike Frere-Jones' writing in general, the guy got me thinking about music and passionate about what he wrote. Even

To each his own, but I am going on Wed next week in NYC. If Dan is not there I am turning around and walking out. I am tired of buying tickets for the New Pornographers and getting there only to find out it is not the full lineup. Even if Neko is there -- no Dan means no me. Ok, maybe I won't leave. But I will be really bummed until about 30 seconds into the first tune.

I find that on compressed files the highs aren't as crisp and the bass isn't as defined. When I put a new vinyl album on my turntable of an LP that I've been listening to for the past few weeks after downloading it from Oink, it is most obvious. The bass has form and structure and it sounds like a string instrument with a deep low register. And the high hats are crisp. And overall, the musical soundscape is just bigger and broader. Vertically and horizontally, if that makes any sense. The music also feels closer to me. mp3s tend to feel further away.

The ironic thing in all of this, of course, is that indie rock (whatever that means) was never supposed to be like straight-up traditional rock and roll. That's what made it indie, and that's why major labels didn't want it. When Wilco made YHF or Sonic Youth made Daydream Nation or Yo La Tengo made And I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One, they didn't want it to sound like the Rolling Stones. Indie can't be defined as a genre because it isn't a genre -- it's an aesthetic. So, for me, what Frere-Jones did is write an article criticising an entire aesthetic of music (spanning many genres) f

Tounge-tied was referring to an article that was linked a few posts into this thread (not the first post) that asserts that indie rock isn't black enough (whatever that means). It is called A Paler Shade of White, How Indie Rock Lost Its Soul.

Haha, well, I do have a long and tattered history with SFJ. So I may be overreacting. I think the article had the potential to be an interesting study of how rock and blues have developed. Instead it turned out to be SFJs dismissal of an entire genre of music (if not more than one genre -- do we really consider Spoon, Devendra Banhart, Yo La Tengo and Pavement to be in the same genre?) by labelling it as not black enough? Seems lazy and flat out preposterous to me.

I want to post the new yorker article in its own thread just so I can call it I HATE SASHA FRERE JONES. Ugh, what trash.

I love the New Yorker and it's writers to pieces but I cannot stand Sasha Frere Jones. I found this piece to be even more annoying than his usual output.

God I hate Sasha Frere Jones.

This thread really has everything when you think about it.

Haha, I had a feeling you'd pick out that one. My love for Phish ended awhile ago (actually, probably with that show), but yeah that was a special weekend. Watching the sun come up on the new millenium with 80,000 other people in the middle of the Florida Everglades was one of the coolest things ever. From 11pm to 7am. I was completely sober that entire weekend and completely delirious by the end.