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If you look at the setlists from 2012-2013, there's actually more variety than it seems. It's just that the 3-4 rarities that get played every night get drowned out by all of the standards. The AmericanaramA setlists are so exciting because they keep the rarities and have cut back on the number of standards. Plus the guest spots have been thrilling and unpredictable.

The Dylan set is already posted on Dime, and the taper said he will post the other sets soon.

I thought they brought the winner onstage and she had requested some overplayed YHF song, so they told her to request "Candyfloss" instead. What's the real story? Just listening to the tape, the whole exchange was very awkward.

Wow, an unexpected and seemingly acrimonious parting-of-the-ways between Dylan and Duke Robillard. Didn't see that coming! Another wonderful setlist from Wilco. It's nice to get a concentrated mix of unusual stuff, without the need to play every single obligatory song. Usually these festival shows are a chance to knock out your "hits," pick up a check, and introduce your music to some new people. But AmericanaramA is shaping up to be one of their most memorable and unique tours in a long time.

Seems weird that relatively rockin' songs like "Wilco (the song)", "You Never Know", "Sonny Feeling", etc. are considered so subpar by the band that they have completely vanished from their live show. These songs are really that much worse than "Walken" or "Born Alone", the latter of which they play every single night?

I get the feeling these AmericanaramA threads will all be discussions of whether or not Bob Dylan is any good! I've seen Dylan many times over the last 20 years. He's deliberately dialed down the rock over the last ten years; the late '90s/early '00s shows with Charlie Sexton and Larry Campbell were really barnstorming and probably would have gone over better with the mixed festival crowd. When I've seen Dylan at outdoor festivals, there tend to be a lot of baby boomer counterculture types who haven't heard a thing he's done since Blonde on Blonde, and are frustrated by the newer songs an

Really enjoying the recordings -- thanks so much to the tapers. This is such a fun show, I'm so glad we all get to hear it. I sort of laughed to myself as I listened, though -- and I don't mean this as a serious criticism...well, maybe half-serious. But I always think of Wilco as a nearly perfect all-around band who can play anything. But if they lack anything it's that they rock out in a very tasteful fashion; it's never out of control or excessive. The closest they get is "Monday" and "Outtasite", but those songs are almost 20 years old. And that's too bad! I just listened to a live

That synth sound has always been there, including on the studio version. It was just a lot louder on this radio broadcast. Maybe it's louder over the PA at the show, maybe not.

You really think they played the most-requested songs? "Kingpin" was the only Wilco song that made the cut? From this thread, it seems like a lot of people expected a mix of covers and Wilco songs. (And unfortunately you can see some people setting themselves up for disappointment, expecting a Wilco-heavy set.) On another note, it's great to see all the VC requests that were granted -- "And Your Bird Can Sing", "Waterloo Bridge", etc. I can't think of another major band that would do something like this. Really wish I could've made it -- it seemed like such a fun, relaxed atmospher

Maybe the band should've distinguished between "all-request" and "all-covers." I think it's entirely reasonable to think they were going to play rare Wilco songs along with the covers. Having said that, I would've given anything to switch places with the folks who were disappointed!

From Twitter, so far it looks like: The Boys Are Back in Town Cut Your Hair In the Street New Madrid Dead Flowers Simple Twist of Fate Ripple Who Loves the Sun And Your Bird Can Sing (twice) Psychotic Reaction Tom Courtenay (w/Yo La Tengo) James Alley Blues Waterloo Sunset Waterloo (What's So Funny 'bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding? Marquee Moon Don't Fear the Reaper Cinnamon Girl Get Lucky (Daft Punk) Surrender (Cheap Trick) Color Me Impressed (w/Tommy Stinson) Kingpin

Deaf R Clockwork S/T Lullabies Era A little surprised to see the love for Lullabies, which is good but for me never really takes off. Very impressed with Clockwork, though. If I had to pick a dud track it would be "Fairweather Friends" for sure. Everything else is top-notch, particularly the two closing songs.

For me, there's a big difference between having an onstage performer mime to someone backstage and using backstage supporting musicians to fill out the live sound. If the guys on stage are playing their parts and their music is supplemented by a rhythm guitarist or keyboard player it's not a big deal to me. Same with backing tapes and samples - some bands need them more than others. And who cares if they're backstage? You really need to see a guitar tech strumming along onstage? It's more "honest", but it's also distracting. Hell, even Wilco had Mike Jorgensen in the shadowy back of the

Great show from yesterday, shot at the former CBGB. The 1978 Budokan set in its entirety. http://new.livestream.com/CheapTrick/Budokan

This show is now available for sale officially, without the sound problems mentioned in the post above.

With all the Roadcase shows they're selling, I'd be surprised if they ever release another "official" live album. Besides, Kicking Television basically covers it, in terms of a mass market release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG49QZw0Kc4

Saw this in the theater last night and it was truly great. Tons of wonderful little moments and interplay among the band members. Just a very intense, committed performance all around. Page and Plant were technically sharper back in the '90s when they toured together, but the powerful sense of nostalgia ("let's be Led Zeppelin one more time") made this especially memorable. Some of the performances (like "Kashmir") hold up against any of the live performances from the '70s. And the editing and camerawork, while aggressive, were well done. I'm glad it was a one-time gig, though. One nig

We're kinda hitting the point of diminishing returns as far as setlist variations go. Cool if you attended these recent shows, but surely they've got some older shows they could dig up. Or maybe the quality of recording isn't good enough on the older shows?

Yep, bbop's reviews are my favorite thing about this board, period.

I know people don't like hearing how good they have it, but...most folks I know make between $30-60K. And these are "city folk." Paying for their kids' college or saving extra for retirement is simply not an option. And many of them are still paying off enormous student loans. The idea of making $200K a year is almost inconceivable.

Should we move this thread to the "After the Show" forum? Great review! I was really pleased with the setlist last night -- I requested "Rising Red Lung" about a billion times on the website, so I was especially happy to hear that, even if Pat had to shush some folks near the front at the beginning of the song. I was glad the acoustics of the room allowed them to play some quieter songs. The crowd was pretty dead for the first few songs, as you said, but everyone stood after "Impossible Germany" and most continued to stand for the rest of the show. Although sometimes it might seem like

I understand and sympathize with your argument, particularly about inflation, but the median household income in the U.S. is $50,000 -- and obviously, many of these households have three kids (or more), and all the other costs you list. So if you are middle class at just under $200K, what does that make the average household, which makes less than a third of your income? I grew up in an environment where most families were making the equivalent of $150-$250K and everyone thought they were middle class, even if they were living a lifestyle that would be unfathomable for today's average mid

I'm sure there will be plenty of overdubs. There was a huge screwup in the middle of "Dazed and Confused" that will have to be corrected as well.

Has anyone from the band actually said they will be posting older shows? They just say "many more to come!" etc. This might just be a program for releasing current shows, rather than some kind of archive project. I like the idea, but the setlists are too similar to collect them all.