embiggen Posted June 11, 2007 Author Share Posted June 11, 2007 With all due respect, Jess, it boggles my mind that you could have found that boring. well, then you can just be boggled then. yeah, the cat was interesting and cute, it was good to see Phil's head get run over... but that's it. I was bored. totally. you're not watching it right, you need to watch it again. it's a grower. yeah, I'm probably not watching it right. Link to post Share on other sites
Whitty Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I've mentioned this before to people who seem to moan about the ambiguity and open-endedness of shows like The Sopranos and Lost- perhps Law & Order is more up your alley. Anyone used to the Sopranos M.O. should know that the both the mundane tribulations of family life and the specter of imminent demise are always haunting the scene. The biggest weight on Tony's shoulders was relieved when Phil took some lead and American union-made steel to the dome- but as Tony's suspicious glares around Holston's will affirm, the weight is never truly removed in his line of work. Tony may have witnessed some of what lay in store during his poignant visit with Junior- "it's all a big nothing", right? There is always a fall from power. Paulie, too looks like a tired and numbed man by the end, content to soak up the sun outside Satriale's, remembering the good times as best he can. I loved the selections on the jukebox. David Chase almost certainly made sure to linger on "My Way". I'm glad he avoided the temptation of an out-of-character spectacle to close out the series. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Perm Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I thought it was great, perfect. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 So What So What So What'Cha Want? Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Acres Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Sil is alive, and we can hope he recovers. You better hope he recovers... The Boss needs his harmonies! Link to post Share on other sites
darkstar Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 OK I need to watch this again...Am I crazy or was Tony seeing himself in that diner as he was looking in the window before he entered? Did I see Adriana in there as well? What about that guy (Finnerty?) that he busted out his store and he got AJ's SUV from did I see him in there as well? The minute it ended and went to black I was kind of pissed, but then I started laughing. I think Chase ended this perfectly. Like Tony always says It's all a big nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I remember now thinking that too - that Tony was looking at Tony - then I thought I'd misread it. Huh. Link to post Share on other sites
alison the wilca Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 yeah, i noticed that too. it was bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I was hoping Bruce would make a special appearance. Maybe have him walking out as Tony was coming to visit Sil. and Sil's hair was perfect, nep !! Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 whether you love or hate the ending, I sure wouldn't want to be Chase for the next couple of weeks. No matter what he did he would have drawn criticism I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 My friend has now begun to ignore me on IM because I couldn't join him in trashing David Chase - this is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites
c53x12 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I'm veering wildly back and forth between these two viewpoints. Instead of taking Tony down out of karmic retribution, Chase got his karmic revenge on us for caring too much about this "jack-off fantasy on TV" in the first place. And yet... is it possible that we're witnessing Tony's last moment alive? What did Bobby say to him on the boat, in the first episode of this last run? "You probably don't even hear it when it happens, right?" Maybe the abrupt ending is Tony getting shot, without even realizing it? I think I'm leaning toward the latter scenario -- our window into the Sopranos' world disappears when Tony's consciousness ends, kind of like the way Season 6A's early episodes were dominated by Tony's comatose hallucinations. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 My immediate reaction was that the four of them were slaughtered - cut to black, focus on the good times. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 My immediate reaction was that the four of them were slaughtered - cut to black, focus on the good times.same here. Link to post Share on other sites
markosis Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 My best friend and fellow Soprano-fan had a long conversation last night after the "finale." We both agree the sixth season was a total disgrace to the wonderful legacy of the show, though I didn't hate last night's episode as much as many seem to. My friend and myself came to a realization about the last season: there were no characters introduced that you really cared about. Think about the powderkegs in the previous seasons: Mikey Palimisi in Season 1, Richie Aprile in Season 2, Ralph Cifaretto in Season 3, Tony Blundetto in Season 5, Phil Leotardo in Season 5. These guys came in and really shook things up and made the show very interesting. This last season? There were new guys in Satriales every episode. Think about the bald fat guy that was Tony's driver. He was in the entire season yet I couldn't even tell you his name. I could go on. I have many qualms about the lack of wit and creativity in the writing overall in the last season. They should have ended it with Season 5. Basically, here it is in a nutshell - What would you rather listen to: Music From Big Pink or Islands? Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 cut to black, focus on the good times. No one at the water cooler today is focused on the good times. I love it. Chase is amazing. The more I think about it, the more I love last night's episode. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I have many qualms about the lack of wit and creativity in the writing overall in the last season. They should have ended it with Season 5.The writing in season 6 was perhaps the best in the whole series. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 This is fun stuff:http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID...d=1181566638975just keep refreshing to get the latest posts. Link to post Share on other sites
markosis Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I wish I could see it that way, but I can't. I look at the whole Vito thing as prime evidence of a lack of original or even good ideas. It could have been resolved in 1 or 2 episodes, but they milked it to death, then even after the guy is whacked we have to deal with his son, then constant references to Vito all the way until the end, when it wasn't that great of a plot twist to begin with. I know its foolish to say such things, but long gone was the powerful and emotional writing of the third and fourth seasons. In the earlier days, the writers had plenty of ammo to keep my interest wholeheartedly. I just see the last season as an example of what happens when something good wears out its welcome. Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted June 11, 2007 Author Share Posted June 11, 2007 It's been downhill ever since that that stupid Christopher Columbus Episode back in Season 4. I don't think people pay 15 more a month for HBO to "create your own ending". Unreal. Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted June 11, 2007 Author Share Posted June 11, 2007 THEY SHOULD HAVE ENDED THE SEASON LAST WEEK WITH EVERYONE GETTING KILLED, THEN ADDED PHIL GETTING KILLED THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER ENDING THAN THAT BULLSHIT LAST NIGHT. Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I wish I could see it that way, but I can't. I look at the whole Vito thing as prime evidence of a lack of original or even good ideas. It could have been resolved in 1 or 2 episodes, but they milked it to death, then even after the guy is whacked we have to deal with his son, then constant references to Vito all the way until the end, when it wasn't that great of a plot twist to begin with. I know its foolish to say such things, but long gone was the powerful and emotional writing of the third and fourth seasons. In the earlier days, the writers had plenty of ammo to keep my interest wholeheartedly. I just see the last season as an example of what happens when something good wears out its welcome. I agree with your, Chase ran out of gas theory. this season seemed more about getting closure for each character. Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 I liked the ending. I wouldn't say I loved it as the final scene was definitely a little manipulative. But whatever - we're suckers for allowing ourselves to be manipulated so easily. And Tony DID tell Carmella "families can't be touched". So maybe it's true - and maybe the Sopranos will live on in movies / books / videogames / spinoffs / action figures / lunchboxes... Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 This is fun stuff:http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID...d=1181566638975just keep refreshing to get the latest posts. Chase filmed 3 endings.....Well he forgot to include one in last nights epidsode!! Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 it's ironic that seinfeld ended up in jail and the sopranos got diner food. Link to post Share on other sites
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