bobbob1313 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I like this guy who never understands when people are joking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I like this guy who never understands when people are joking. I was just busting his chops - my apologies ikol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Just don't taser my chops. I have a 0.000000000001% chance of dying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Just don't taser me, bro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'm a fan of the brah variant myself... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Disobedience does not excuse the use of excessive force. And what if he did comply with the cuffing, and then went on to disobey orders to stand, would it have been ok to taser him in order to get him to comply with that request? And if he refused to walk? Or lower his head in order to enter the back seat of the cruiser? Would you have objected if they clubbed him into complying? i'd challenge that excessive disobedience can and none of the other stuff happened, you are know arguing based on what-ifs versus what-is. do you challenge this guy has more than numerous opportunities to avoid being tasered? also, just for my own sanity, you have cast aside the notion that this was based on any level of politics and/or eradication of free speech, yes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'm a fan of bras myself... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Damn, I knew that was coming... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 i'd challenge that excessive disobedience can and none of the other stuff happened, you are know arguing based on what-ifs versus what-is. do you challenge this guy has more than numerous opportunities to avoid being tasered? also, just for my own sanity, you have cast aside the notion that this was based on any level of politics and/or eradication of free speech, yes? Am I? I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyflynn Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 You're perseverant, I'll give you that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 You're a bit obsessed about posting in this thread, I'll give you that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 You're perseverant, I'll give you that. Like a cockroach, or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 You're perseverant, I'll give you that. I fight for what I believe in, and for that I will never apologize. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyflynn Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I fight for what I believe in, and for that I will never apologize.Good man. I don't agree with your point of view on this but I too, am a tree hugging dirt worshipper. Stay strong, brother. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I'll second that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Good man. I don't agree with your point of view on this but I too, am a tree hugging dirt worshipper. Stay strong, brother. I'll second that. From one tree-hugger to another, thanks guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I love this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I...am a tree hugging dirt worshipper, if you get what I'm trying to say here... Wrong thread... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 (CNN) -- Heidi Gill admits she had been drinking at a bar in Warren, Ohio, and gotten into a "disagreement" with a bartender earlier this month. But she said she didn't deserve to have a police officer use a Taser gun on her multiple times. Warren, Ohio, officer Rich Kovach is on paid administrative leave pending an investigation. Video footage from the police cruiser shows Gill, 38, crawling on the ground while the officer stands over her with the stun gun. She's screaming wildly. At one point, officer Rich Kovach shoves her with his foot as she struggles. "I've never been electrocuted," she told CNN's "American Morning" on Wednesday. "I didn't know what this was. And I really didn't think this pain was ever going to stop. It was nonstop." She said she was trying anything to get away "so I could live." Watch Gill describe the Taser treatment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 You're... you're still here? This thread is over. Go home. Go on, go! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 In the police report, Kovach describes responding to a "fight/disturbance" at the Up A Creek tavern and finding a belligerent Gill, who began cursing, refused to give her real name, then ran to the back of the property and got into a sport utility vehicle that wasn't hers.The officer asked her to get out and she refused, trying to "climb over to the passenger seat to jump out the passenger side of the car.Again, sounds like a good candidate for tasering.If you're running away from the cops and swearing at them -- as was this girl, just like the guy I'm now referring to exclusively as "Taser Boy" -- you can expect trouble. Watch a few episodes of Cops and you can see why these guys are so quick to use it. They face an ongoing parade of idiots who are drunk, high, belligerent, disrespectful, dishonest, dangerous ... cops almost ALWAYS become deeply cynical, subjected day after day as they are to the worst sides of human nature. Anybody dealing with them on any level should do it strictly from a Yes, sir / No, sir point of view. And if you have a problem with one, I'd suggest politely asking for their badge number and reporting them later. Respect their authority! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 OK, maaaaaybe once in the car is OK, but while she's laying on the ground it's not cool for the bro to tase her repeatedly. The authorities need to respect the power of the taser. Taser boy still had it coming to him, though. Just curious, do cops have to be tasered during the course of their taser training? It might make them think twice about using it too much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deepseacatfish Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 OK, maaaaaybe once in the car is OK, but while she's laying on the ground it's not cool for the bro to tase her repeatedly. The authorities need to respect the power of the taser. Taser boy still had it coming to him, though.I agree with this. Yep. Anybody dealing with them on any level should do it strictly from a Yes, sir / No, sir point of view. And if you have a problem with one, I'd suggest politely asking for their badge number and reporting them later. Respect their authority!I also agree with this. Yep. Though I do think it's worth looking into the safety and ethics of taser usage in general, I would guess there are some serious cases of mis(and over)usage of tasers just as there are plenty of cases of situations where they are extremely helpful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I guess I just have no sympathy for her, given the way she was misbehaving. And I've seen the video."Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suites Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 OK, maaaaaybe once in the car is OK, but while she's laying on the ground it's not cool for the bro to tase her repeatedly. The authorities need to respect the power of the taser. Taser boy still had it coming to him, though. Just curious, do cops have to be tasered during the course of their taser training? It might make them think twice about using it too much. I knew someone who went to Police Training in South Florida and they did have to get Tasered. SUITES Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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