Nonlinear Nonfiction Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Okay, I seriously apologize if this has been mentioned before, I've been gone a while. If you have HD cable from Comcast you should be able to find this on the Havoc OnDemand channel. If not, those folks are kind enough to give us some choice footage from the Kicking Television gigs. Remember those? http://havoctv.com/index?a=1143 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ray Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Okay, I seriously apologize if this has been mentioned before, I've been gone a while. If you have HD cable from Comcast you should be able to find this on the Havoc OnDemand channel. If not, those folks are kind enough to give us some choice footage from the Kicking Television gigs. Remember those? http://havoctv.com/index?a=1143 Wow, I haven't seen these before... and I had always assumed that the video or visual aspect of the show didn't turn out so hot ... but seeing that footage, clearly the shows kicked television ass. Was it ever made clear as to why they shelved the DVD release? It's really going to be buried treasure in years to come when they eventually dig it back out for Anthologies and whatnots isn't it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 The band streamed this on their site back in '05, as I recall. I didn't understand then why they decided not to release the DVD, and watching this again, I still can't figure it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
howdjadoo Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Okay, I seriously apologize if this has been mentioned before, I've been gone a while. If you have HD cable from Comcast you should be able to find this on the Havoc OnDemand channel. If not, those folks are kind enough to give us some choice footage from the Kicking Television gigs. Remember those? http://havoctv.com/index?a=1143 Just made an Xvid of it,enjoy:http://sharebee.com/cd54b3d2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
damo Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 what songs are on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
howdjadoo Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 what songs are on it 1 only K.Tel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 The band streamed this on their site back in '05, as I recall. I didn't understand then why they decided not to release the DVD, and watching this again, I still can't figure it out. Yea, looks good to me....the "young" Wilco... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 This video has actually been around for awhile, it was streamed on the band's website leading up to the release of the Kicking Television DVD. Beyond it no footage of the concerts have surfaced. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Griddles Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 This video has really good quality for it being on the internet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 a few of the angles are kind of crappy; I'm sure Jeff wanted it to be perfect. It's not terrible, but it's far from the best pro-shot (far from the worst too). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Wow, I haven't seen these before... and I had always assumed that the video or visual aspect of the show didn't turn out so hot ... but seeing that footage, clearly the shows kicked television ass. Was it ever made clear as to why they shelved the DVD release? It's really going to be buried treasure in years to come when they eventually dig it back out for Anthologies and whatnots isn't it. I seem to remember something mentioned about how the footage didn't make it seem like there was an audience, and thus it didn't seem live enough. So what they did was (and here's the clever bit!) remove all the film part of it, and made it just into a cd. On cd that audience really comes alive. I think that's the official word. Either that, or John got pissed that he looks like he's taking his jacket on and off repeatedly throughout the song. I personally think that they had a falling out with the director, cos that Kicking TV footage looks a million times better than any of the live stuff on I'm Trying To Break Your Heart, and the band was happy for that to go out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tenderloin Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 after seeing this, it's no wonder the DVD got shelved. Didn't they have steady cams back in '05? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 the editing of this footage could cause a person to have a fit. it's all over the place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I thought that was rad. Any other sources for video from the Thanksgiving shows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Any other sources for video from the Thanksgiving shows? there's video from the Thanksgiving shows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 On cd that audience really comes alive. I think that's the official word. Either that, or John got pissed that he looks like he's taking his jacket on and off repeatedly throughout the song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 there's video from the Thanksgiving shows? I was thinking the cd was compiled from Thanksgiving. Maybe I'm wrong? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I was thinking the cd was compiled from Thanksgiving. Maybe I'm wrong? yeah, Kicking Television is from the shows they did @ the Vic, in May 2005. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 after seeing this, it's no wonder the DVD got shelved. Didn't they have steady cams back in '05? You think that Sam would've been given the budget to do a typical pro-shot setup, given I'm sure the big pockets at Nonsuch funded this: Camera in the pit straight onCamera in the pit to the leftcamera in the pit to the rightcamera stage leftcamera stage rightcamera in the way back. Basically you need a camera focused on each individual member, plus some good group shots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 i recall watching this on the roadcase Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WaronWar Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I seem to remember something mentioned about how the footage didn't make it seem like there was an audience, and thus it didn't seem live enough. So what they did was (and here's the clever bit!) remove all the film part of it, and made it just into a cd. On cd that audience really comes alive. I think that's the official word. Either that, or John got pissed that he looks like he's taking his jacket on and off repeatedly throughout the song. I personally think that they had a falling out with the director, cos that Kicking TV footage looks a million times better than any of the live stuff on I'm Trying To Break Your Heart, and the band was happy for that to go out. "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" was Sam's own film that Wilco gave him permission to do while I think (though not sure) Wilco asked him to do the Kicking Television Shows, which gives Wilco the right over the latter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gewee Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I was at a show where Jeff expalained that the DVD wasn't exciting enough. Might have been a Tweedy show, but someone hollared "when is the DVD coming out?" And the answer was "it's not." "why?" "It wasn't exciting enough." Oh well I seem to remember something mentioned about how the footage didn't make it seem like there was an audience, and thus it didn't seem live enough. So what they did was (and here's the clever bit!) remove all the film part of it, and made it just into a cd. On cd that audience really comes alive. I think that's the official word. Either that, or John got pissed that he looks like he's taking his jacket on and off repeatedly throughout the song. I personally think that they had a falling out with the director, cos that Kicking TV footage looks a million times better than any of the live stuff on I'm Trying To Break Your Heart, and the band was happy for that to go out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ms. yvon Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 You think that Sam would've been given the budget to do a typical pro-shot setup, given I'm sure the big pockets at Nonsuch funded this: ... Basically you need a camera focused on each individual member, plus some good group shots.b/c i am geeky this way i remember that: --each night there were 4 cameras operating--so every night the crew would get different coverage of each song that was on list for the dvd--the songs were in a different order in the setlist every night, resulting in the jacket on/jacket off phenomenon--shot on film, not video = pretty, but expensive this KT vid was used to promote the album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eddiedillon839 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Kicking television never gets old, it like it more the more i listen to it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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