Party @ the Moontower Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 hmm, this is kindof scant evidence, although i agree it doesn't look good. i also don't like the term "ban" for having books removed from a library, although she is quoted as saying so in this article. i need more info. Gosh Time & CNN aren't good enough for you?How about the New York Times? Your a link whore . I'll do my best for you. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/us/polit...wasilla.html?hphttp://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09...n-for-objectinghttp://www.urbanbaby.com/talk/posts/50442130http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/03/halperin/http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/...1837918,00.htmlhttp://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/http://www.drudge.com/news/111850/mayor-pa...ought-ban-bookshttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/09/03/rep...tried-ban-bookshttp://people.boston.com/forums/news/polit...059242233644435http://polisciafterparty.wordpress.com/200...d-to-ban-books/http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_...hristian-1.htmlhttp://librarygarden.blogspot.com/2008/09/banned-books.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-scha...ing_b_7899.html All of these have links upon links in them, not just someone pulling this out of their ass. Hope this helps. hmm, this is kindof scant evidence, although i agree it doesn't look good. i also don't like the term "ban" for having books removed from a library, although she is quoted as saying so in this article. i need more info. Thanks! I knew I mattered Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 But what happens if McCain dies? Do you really think her experience has prepared her to be president? There's no way McCain will die, he's like bionic. Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 There's no way McCain will die, he's like bionic.He already died once, didn't you see the Xfiles sequel? Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 IHowever, I do think the experience and knowledge she will gain throughout the rest of the campaign and as vice president will adequately prepare her if the worst-case scenario does happen and something happens to McCain. I also trust the decisions McCain will make in constructing a cabinet and administration that would surround her and advise her in the unlikely event of a McCain death. On the job training, like @ a vo-tech school? Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 There's no way McCain will die, he's like bionic.that is really funny, but please don't say it! sssssh. Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Oops! Chuck Todd: Mike Murphy, lots of free advice, we'll see if Steve Schmidt and the boys were watching. We'll find out on your blackberry. Tonight voters will get their chance to hear from Sarah Palin and she will get the chance to show voters she's the right woman for the job Up next, one man who's already convinced and he'll us why Gov. Jon Huntsman. (cut away) Peggy Noonan: Yeah. Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys -- this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it's not gonna work. And -- PN: It's over. MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good. CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too. PN: Saw Kay this morning. CT: Yeah, she's never looked comfortable about this -- MM: They're all bummed out. CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to? PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this -- excuse me-- political bullshit about narratives -- CT: Yeah they went to a narrative. MM: I totally agree. PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it. MM: You know what' sreally the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical. CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky. MM: Yeah. Link to post Share on other sites
kwall Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 On the job training, like @ a vo-tech school?yeah, like obama will get. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 yeah, like obama will get.1. I think Obama's resume runs much deeper than Palin's (see my post above).2. McCain's campaign theme (at least before Friday) was experience matters. Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 yeah, like obama will get.You're implying Obama will win. Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 You're implying Obama will win. I'm ok with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I'm reading the link you posted and, quite frankly, it all seems like conspiracy theories to me. No concrete evidence, and if you're going to make allegations like that, the burden of proof is on you. I put this in the same boat with the 9/11 truthers. We're supposed to believe at the same time that Bush is one of the worst, most incompetent presidents of all time (I probably think this is true), but that he can also orchestrate these 3 huge evil plots. Looking at the breakdown of the 2004 election by party support, it's pretty easy to see that the republicans just did a better job of convincing the base. The Democrats put up an awful candidate, Bush didn't need to steal anything. Dude first off sorry for bridging this up again but I have a point to make. When people use the burden of proof line it really irritates me. Listen, clearly if you do any research on both the 2000/2004 elections or September 11 there are things that don't make sense. The official stories have holes in them. Now the entire conspiracy genre if you will is people filling in the blanks because what the fuck else can they do.The burden of proof is not only on the people asking questions it Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 This thread is something. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 yeah, like obama will get. Yeah, Obama has the same experience level as Palin That argument is lame. Check out how Obama voted on issues, after all, he spent a day or two in Congress. Alsaka and Congress are one in the same. You have seen him go up against Hillary& speak a zillion times. I know who he is, that's why I am voting for him.Who heard of Palin before last week? So many here on VC running to protect Palin, although not one of you mentioned her a good VP pick before she landed the gig! Senator Obama has written 890 bills & co-sponsored another 1096 while Palin was out shooting guns & turning Alasksa into the highway to heaven. Tens years in muncipal government & 2 as govenor does not equal Obama's experience.Obama has a solid resume in public service work , 20 years worth. He was also a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, so I assume he knows our constitution well. He taught classes like Constitutional Law III, Equal Protection & Substantive Due Process, Voting Rights & Democratic Process, & Current Issues in Racism & Law. More here on politifact.com,They don't lie for our side. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ar...ars-experience/ 1. I think Obama's resume runs much deeper than Palin's (see my post above).2. McCain's campaign theme (at least before Friday) was experience matters. Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I love this quote from John Boehner re: Palin's passport Clearly, if you look at this family, this is not a wealthy family. When you look at their age and the number of kids they have, they clearly had their hands full at home. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/03/cnr.04.html Do we have a "open mouth, insert foot" emoticon? Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=6791...ctionid=3510203 Obama Would Engage Iran Early Next Year intresting article on Obama's plans for Iran take a guesse more sanctions, yaa for evrybody Link to post Share on other sites
H-Bomb Henry Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 It was a trip listening to Bush trumpet his only success in office. The troop surge was a "huge" success. Never mind the billions of tax payer dollars being spent to pay off the tribal leaders to keep the violence down. These tribal leaders probably won't go out and get armed to the teeth though. I feel sorry for whoever takes office after this joke. Bush sounded desperate to have his name on a building other than some sewage plant in California last evening. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Palin to jab Obama, cast herself as outsider By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer 13 minutes ago ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin cast herself as an outsider and took a swipe at Democrat Barack Obama on Wednesday in what was the most anticipated speech of the Republican National Convention. She pledged that as John McCain's running mate, she wanted to go to Washington not to seek the media's approval but "to serve the people of this country." Depicting herself as "just your average hockey mom," Palin described her political career as mayor of her small town before her election as governor. "Since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves," Palin said in excerpts of her remarks, released in advance of her appearance. "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a `community organizer,' except that you have actual responsibilities." Palin didn't mention Obama by name but her target was obvious: Obama began his political life as a community organizer. Palin also said she was not part of the permanent "Washington elite." She said some in the media think that makes her unqualified. "Here's a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 1. I think Obama's resume runs much deeper than Palin's (see my post above).You "think". Last I checked, Obama has not managed or "governed" anything (a very important part of being President; see Bill Clinton). I am much more comfortable with Palin's experience than Obama's. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Yeah, but if she REALLY believes that the earth is only 5,000 years old, that means she doesn't believe in science, and I don't want a potential president who doesn't accept the scientific method. Not that I was going to vote for McCain anyway, but geez, all the experience in the world doesn't make up for the not-believing-in-science. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 You "think". Last I checked, Obama has not managed or "governed" anything (a very important part of being President; see Bill Clinton). I am much more comfortable with Palin's experience than Obama's. I Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Yeah, but if she REALLY believes that the earth is only 5,000 years old, that means she doesn't believe in science, and I don't want a potential president who doesn't accept the scientific method. Not that I was going to vote for McCain anyway, but geez, all the experience in the world doesn't make up for the not-believing-in-science.Yep. Or wanting to ban books in a library, or supporting Pat Buchanan in '00, or... Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Yeah, but if she REALLY believes that the earth is only 5,000 years old, that means she doesn't believe in science, and I don't want a potential president who doesn't accept the scientific method. Not that I was going to vote for McCain anyway, but geez, all the experience in the world doesn't make up for the not-believing-in-science. Exactly, the amount of raw knowledge and discovery that has to be dismissed in order to conclude that the earth is only 5000 years old is nothing short of staggering, just staggering. As I Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Exactly, the amount of raw knowledge and discovery that has to be dismissed in order to conclude that the earth is only 5000 years old is nothing short of staggering, just staggering. As I Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 You meant Year of Our Ford, didn't you. That makes me think of a geology class I had in college. The professor in the class answered someone's question about that deal by saying he was interested in the age of rocks, but not, the rock of ages. Banned Books Week Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Banned Books Week just in time Link to post Share on other sites
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