Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Funny interview:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxT0ELP7az0 Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Widespread Touch Screen Vote Flipping Don't steal my hope man . The reports coming in from MO, my state, look very sick. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Don't steal my hope man . The reports coming in from MO, my state, look very sick. It's a sad trip. Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 My state is always a lost cause but I'm still voting how I want. Even had a neighbor stop by last night to ask me where I got my Obama/Biden yard sign because her husband wants one for their yard. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'd like to have one of those shirts. Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Funny interview:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxT0ELP7az0 wow... just silly. Credit to Biden for at least trying to answer questions. This lady has some sort of agenda? Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I voted early in Ohio on one of those touch-screen jobs. I'm sure I must have annoyed the poll-worker there by asking a lot of questions about the paper record and what happens in the event of a contested result--she was looking at me like a conspiracy theory wacko, but I was mostly just curious. I double-checked my vote about a bazillion times before submitting and I watched the paper record buzz by in the little window to make sure nothing went screwy when I submitted. I'm not especially paranoid, but its good to know that things are really working correctly. As for fears about electronic votes being "switched" specifically from O to McC, I will say that I was surprised at the number of presidential candidates on the Ohio ballot this year--there were like 7-10 of them. If somebody were to write a hack program to shift votes, I'd say it would be way sneakier to just randomly distribute them than to drop them directly into the GOP column--that seems like it would be rather obvious. If election tallies are wildly divergent from exit polls again, there will no doubt be a lot of scrutiny going on. Overall, I'd say that I am "cautiously confident" (if such a thing exists ) about the vote this year. These things are going to be closely watched and glitches like this are going to be reported immediately. I'm not sure that sitting here worrying about it is going to help anything, so I'm not going to worry. For now. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'm not sure that sitting here worrying about it is going to help anything, so I'm not going to worry. For now. do you have any hints, tips, secrets for this feat? help! Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 wow... just silly. Credit to Biden for at least trying to answer questions. This lady has some sort of agenda? Her husband is a GOP media consultant & they both host Republican fundraising events. I think Biden held up very well to such ridiculous and overplayed questions. Edit: here's her McCain "interview"- JOKE do you have any hints, tips, secrets for this feat? help! Lots of red wine Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 do you have any hints, tips, secrets for this feat? help! Valium? Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 wow... just silly. Credit to Biden for at least trying to answer questions. This lady has some sort of agenda? Her husband is GOP media consultant Wade West. http://www.bluetidalwave.com/2008/10/confl...journalist.html EDIT: Sorry, someone beat me to it. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Valium?got any thorazine? "Lots of red wine blush.gif" -- tried that last night. i'll try more. Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 More reports on Palin going "rogue": http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/27/palin.tension/ There is something satisfying about the GOP unleashing a monster that it can no longer control. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Was that before or after Biden talked about the test Obama would face in the next year? Talking about Al Qaeda supporting McCain is about as weak as calling Obama a closet Muslim trying to subvert the American way. no, but Joe Lieberman said that EITHER candidate would be tested by a crisis back in July: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/29/...in4217516.shtml"Our enemies will test the new president early," Lieberman, I-Conn., told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer. "Remember that the truck bombing of the World Trade Center happened in the first year of the Clinton administration. 9/11 happened in the first year of the Bush administration." Lieberman nonetheless distanced himself from remarks by McCain chief strategist Charlie Black, who came under criticism for suggesting in an interview that McCain's election chances would be improved if a terrorist attack occurred before November. "Sometimes even the best of them say things that are not what they intended to say," Lieberman said. "Certainly the implications there I know were not what Charlie intended. And he apologized for it. Senator McCain said he didn't agree. And, of course, I feel the same way. "But here's the point. We're in a war against Islamist extremists who attacked us on 9/11. They've been trying to attack us in many, many ways since then." Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Monitor and get updates on the latest voting news and rumors or report a problem with voting in your area. Voter Protection Center Link to post Share on other sites
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moxiebean Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Anybody else's antennae go up when they refer to Palin going "off the reservation"? I must've heard the phrase used at least a dozen times on cnn this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I received my voter card today, so I am good to go. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Christopher Hitchens from today's Slate: Sarah Palin's War on Science The GOP ticket's appalling contempt for knowledge and learning. In an election that has been fought on an astoundingly low cultural and intellectual level, with both candidates pretending that tax cuts can go like peaches and cream with the staggering new levels of federal deficit, and paltry charges being traded in petty ways, and with Joe the Plumber becoming the emblematic stupidity of the campaign, it didn't seem possible that things could go any lower or get any dumber. But they did last Friday, when, at a speech in Pittsburgh, Gov. Sarah Palin denounced wasteful expenditure on fruit-fly research, adding for good xenophobic and anti-elitist measure that some of this research took place "in Paris, France" and winding up with a folksy "I kid you not." It was in 1933 that Thomas Hunt Morgan won a Nobel Prize for showing that genes are passed on by way of chromosomes. The experimental creature that he employed in the making of this great discovery was the Drosophila melanogaster, or fruit fly. Scientists of various sorts continue to find it a very useful resource, since it can be easily and plentifully "cultured" in a laboratory, has a very short generation time, and displays a great variety of mutation. This makes it useful in studying disease, and since Gov. Palin was in Pittsburgh to talk about her signature "issue" of disability and special needs, she might even have had some researcher tell her that there is a Drosophila-based center for research into autism at the University of North Carolina. The fruit fly can also be a menace to American agriculture, so any financing of research into its habits and mutations is money well-spent. It's especially ridiculous and unfortunate that the governor chose to make such a fool of herself in Pittsburgh, a great city that remade itself after the decline of coal and steel into a center of high-tech medical research. In this case, it could be argued, Palin was not just being a fool in her own right but was following a demagogic lead set by the man who appointed her as his running mate. Sen. John McCain has made repeated use of an anti-waste and anti-pork ad (several times repeated and elaborated in his increasingly witless speeches) in which the expenditure of $3 million to study the DNA of grizzly bears in Montana was derided as "unbelievable." As an excellent article in the Feb. 8, 2008, Scientific American pointed out, there is no way to enforce the Endangered Species Act without getting some sort of estimate of numbers, and the best way of tracking and tracing the elusive grizzly is by setting up barbed-wire hair-snagging stations that painlessly take samples from the bears as they lumber by and then running the DNA samples through a laboratory. The cost is almost trivial compared with the importance of understanding this species, and I dare say the project will yield results in the measurement of other animal populations as well, but all McCain could do was be flippant and say that he wondered whether it was a "paternity" or "criminal" issue that the Fish and Wildlife Service was investigating. (Perhaps those really are the only things that he associates in his mind with DNA.) With Palin, however, the contempt for science may be something a little more sinister than the bluff, empty-headed plain-man's philistinism of McCain. We never get a chance to ask her in detail about these things, but she is known to favor the teaching of creationism in schools (smuggling this crazy idea through customs in the innocent disguise of "teaching the argument," as if there was an argument), and so it is at least probable that she believes all creatures from humans to fruit flies were created just as they are now. This would make DNA or any other kind of research pointless, whether conducted in Paris or not. Projects such as sequencing the DNA of the flu virus, the better to inoculate against it, would not need to be funded. We could all expire happily in the name of God. Gov. Palin also says that she doesn't think humans are responsible for global warming; again, one would like to ask her whether, like some of her co-religionists, she is a "premillenial dispensationalist" Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 no, but Joe Lieberman said that EITHER candidate would be tested by a crisis back in July: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/29/...in4217516.shtml My bad. Of course I can't fathom why he would refer to McCain as our new President in any context considering his position. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Team Sarah is a diverse coalition of women dedicated to advancing Sarah Palin's Vice Presidential candidacy. Men welcome too! Some voters 'purged' from voter rolls ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- College senior Kyla Berry was looking forward to voting in her first presidential election, even carrying her voter registration card in her wallet. "Vote suppression is real. It does sometimes happen," said Daniel P. Tokaji, a law professor at Ohio State University. But about two weeks ago, Berry got disturbing news from local election officials. "This office has received notification from the state of Georgia indicating that you are not a citizen of the United States and therefore, not eligible to vote," a letter from the Fulton County Department of Registration and Elections said. But Berry is a U.S. citizen, born in Boston, Massachusetts. She has a passport and a birth certificate to prove it. Video Watch some of the concerns of voting experts Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 With Palin, however, the contempt for science may be something a little more sinister than the bluff, empty-headed plain-man's philistinism of McCain. We never get a chance to ask her in detail about these things, but she is known to favor the teaching of creationism in schools (smuggling this crazy idea through customs in the innocent disguise of "teaching the argument," as if there was an argument), and so it is at least probable that she believes all creatures from humans to fruit flies were created just as they are nowThis has no bearing on anything, but over the weekend my nephew--who is dressing as a shark for Halloween--asked his mom if there were sharks on Noah's Ark. When he didn't get an acceptable answer from mom, he put forth his own theory that all but 2 sharks were put onto the Ark to die (along with every other species of marine life, presumably) and so the ark must have been considerably larger to hold all of them. Or else sea creatures were left unaffected by the flood, possibly because they are superior beings who had not fallen out of God's favor. All of this issued forth from the mind of a 5 year old. I think we have a future contributor to the RTT on our hands, folks! Carry on... Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 This has no bearing on anything, but over the weekend my nephew--who is dressing as a shark for Halloween--asked his mom if there were sharks on Noah's Ark. When he didn't get an acceptable answer from mom, he put forth his own theory that all but 2 sharks were put onto the Ark to die (along with every other species of marine life, presumably) and so the ark must have been considerably larger to hold all of them. Or else sea creatures were left unaffected by the flood, possibly because they are superior beings who had not fallen out of God's favor. All of this issued forth from the mind of a 5 year old. I think we have a future contributor to the RTT on our hands, folks! Carry on... Awesome Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Awesome – you know things are bad when religious dogma cannot stand up to the mind and logic of a five year old. Of course, many Christians (including Catholics) don't take the Old Testament literally. On another note...must see TV tonight? David Letterman vs. Bill O'Reilly Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Of course, many Christians (including Catholics) don't take the Old Testament literally. True, but unfortunately, our would be Vice President does. Link to post Share on other sites
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