uncool2pillow Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Close this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Bring back Jay!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm officially offended by this thread. Mos Def Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Mos Isley? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Mos DefI totally caught myself saying it at work this week! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcart12 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm not going to read this whole thread but it does seem very ridiculous. Not every album can be fantastic and not many artist continually put out their best work album after album. Great artists such as Dylan, Clapton, Neil Young and many more have had dry spells in their careers. Not that I think this applies to Wilco, but it certainly doesn't mean that a band should stop being creative just because they have made what is perceived at one time to be their best album and the next few don't receive the same critical acclaim. Â On top of all that Wilco is raging in their live shows right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yeah, this is a really stupid thread. It's quite offensive to post something like this on THE Wilco fan message board.. Close this thread please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThisIsNowhere Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Of course not. If anything, AGIB is better than YHF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danelectro Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I thought SBS was one of the best things they ever did, along with the rest of their catalog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 A Ghost Is Born is my favorite Wilco album and I think Sky Blue Sky is perfectly enjoyable, so the premise of this thread doesn't hold up for me. Â Â just gotta stick with artists. if you like em enough, you can appreciate whatever they do. if not, then you get pissed off about their new release (ryan adams.)Â I thought of Ryan Adams when I started reading this thread. Cardinology may be the first album that made me angry due to the artist's declining quality of output. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 AGIB rules.SBS is really good. This thread sucks a giraffe's balls with Heinz 57 sauce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zebra Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm officially offended by this thread.Me too. As far as YHF being their best...I believe Jeff said each new records is the best in their eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Are you people f*****g crazy?......... this may be the most ironic thing I have ever read on this board........and that is saying something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 They need to forge ahead if only because no one likes a quitter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kechefs Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 As a long time lurker who loves Wilco I felt I needed to respond to this. Are you insane? SBS was one of the best albums of 2007. The new album (diver down as Jeff stated in Burlington) will be the best album of the summer!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 This thread is neither hip nor ironic!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkiesmile Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 A bad Wilco album is still better than a great (insert artist here) album. Wilco is a part of my family and we enjoy every single song on every album. It'll be a sad day if they ever break up but if they do we'll be eagerly awaiting all of the subsequent solo albums. Talk hard Jeff!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Before you all impale me, hear me out: 1. The general consensus is that AGIB is not quite as good as YHF, and SBS is not quite as good as AGIB. (personally I agree) 2. Not everything can be a masterpiece (as is YHF) and AGIB is still a very good record. SBS is a good record taken on its own account BUT it does represent a 3-record-long downward trend. 3. As far as the new record is concerned there are several possibilities: a. the trend continues with something not as good as SBS b. something about equal to SBS c. something better than SBS but not another masterpiece, or d. another masterpiece. I would suggest that if the new album is indeed choice "a." Wilco should break up before ruining their legacy completely. If it is "b." the same would probably hold true. If it is "d." then they should break up because it's better, as the old cliche goes, to quit while you're ahead. Leaving "c." which is in my humble opinion the only way they can continue without losing...well, something. My interest at least. I just think that they've made a damn a good run of it thus far and would hate to see my favorite band slip into mediocrity. It would cheapen their legacy.I don't personally agree with any of your points. (I put AGIB and ST about YHF, you could add BT in there most days too. Haven't noticed a downward trend. And they can just make a good album, like their others in the fact that they're really hard to compare. I need them all. Did you know that in addition to being able to battle each other, Wilco albums can also be listened to?) And I don't see why in the world you would want a band to quit for any reason unless you're in it. When a band I like stops making albums that I like, I stop buying them. Maybe you should join Wilco. Then you can save them from themselves... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I just think that they've made a damn a good run of it thus far and would hate to see my favorite band slip into mediocrity. It would cheapen their legacy. They've earned the right to quit whenever they want, but I understand your points. But they've got to show me that there still isn't the possibility of them ever putting out another great record again or start sucking live before I really get bent out of shape, and I've been pretty uninterested unfairly judgmental of post-AGIB Wilco. But don't pick up that shovel quite yet. --Mike. Edited after WTA Leak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 As a long time lurker who loves Wilco I felt I needed to respond to this. Are you insane? SBS was one of the best albums of 2007. The new album (diver down as Jeff stated in Burlington) will be the best album of the summer!!!!!!ALbum art: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Gyrrr Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Hmm that graph does show a worryingly downward trend. Maybe they should go into artistic receivership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 ALbum art:Â Is Tweedy going to be replaced by Sammy Haggar? Â As I've given this some thought, regardless of whether or not there's a drop off in quality in Wilco's work it's still not going to make me like Yankee Hotel Foxtrot any less. When I listen to Remain In Light, my enjoyment of it isn't affected by the lesser albums the Talking Heads made late in their career. "Ebony and Ivory" doesn't put a cramp in "The Fool on The Hill." No one's docking points off Pet Sounds for "Kokomo." Â It'd be nice if every band could release nothing but great albums, but it's very rare that there isn't a slight decline in a band's catalog. If you don't count Squeeze (which you shouldn't), The Velvets certainly did it, but they only put out four albums, there aren't a lot of bands/artists with more than five records though that have never had at least a small decline in quality with a record or two. Hell, even The Beatles' Let it Be, while not a bad record, isn't quite on par with the rest of their work. So, listen to a band's good albums, ignore the rest, and keep hoping eventually they'll get the magic back. But until Tweedy is replaced by Haggar who is then replaced by Gary Charone, I think the answer to this question is "no, but keeping Bennett and O'Rourke on the speed dial in the loft isn't a bad idea."Â --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 SBS is a good record- I never said i didn't like it. And yes, as someone stated a few posts back the worst album by Wilco is better than the best album by most people out there. But recently Tweedy's take on Dylan's "A Simple twist of Fate" came up on the shuffle on my ipod andi was struck at how intense and powerful the sparse arrangement was. Undoubtedly Tweedy has some good material left in him, I'm just not sure whether the Wilco machine is the best platform for him to deliver the best material he could. At least to my ears, because i this is all subjective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 Maybe you should join Wilco. no thanks. all of you folks would compare me negatively with every former member of the band, and i would be hated even more on this board than i am now. then i would get fired, and be loved Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 no thanks. all of you folks would compare me negatively with every former member of the band, and i would be hated even more on this board than i am now. then i would get fired, and be lovedAh, nobody hates ya, some of us think maybe you need to clean your ears out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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