Moss Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Amy Winehouse found dead Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 can't say that this is a surprise, though still sad when someone turns out like that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Yeah, it says the death is "Unexplained" but c'mon. I guess you can't rule out suicide or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 That's a shame. I did catch her at a Lolla - she was a bit out of it (and came on late), but her band was great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rareair Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 definitely a shame no matter how predictable. she had a great voice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 a sad waste of talent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Why am I not surprised. Sad though. She had it all going on for a bit. Clearly she wasn't going anywhere fast anymore though. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Very sad, especially at such a young age. People always think it's going to be someone else, but not them. Vibes to her fans, friends, and family.The so-called "27 Club" now includes Robert Johnson, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Ron "Pigpen" McKernan, Kurt Cobain, and Amy Winehouse. Again, truly sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 27 club on wikipedia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The High Heat Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 27 club on wikipediaD. Boon is on that list. Another musician to add to it is Ross Harman of The Gaskets, a band you might have seen a few years back on the late Saturday night PBS music show "The Music Seen." He killed himself at age 27 last September. Too bad, he was very talented. The only thing I know about Winehouse is that she had troubles, but young people dying is just about the worst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 if she didnt keep saying "no no no" to rehab, maybe things would be different Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Gyrrr Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 It's a shame I thought she might have a great album still in her.Very sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Damn. I'd heard some talk of Questlove producing some comeback music for her, which I would have eagerly awaited. Oh well. Not a shock, but still a bit of a bummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hazel Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 i was a fan, sad news..rip amy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 It's a shame I thought she might have a great album still in her.Very sad.There will be another album come out by her you can be sure. They will cobble together whatever she was doing and release it, a la Jeff Buckley, etc. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I must stay that this does not surprise me. She was talented, but she was surely dancing with the devil for the last several years. The uncharitable side of me wonders when Pete Doherty will make a miscalculation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Gyrrr Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Na Doherty's 31 so there's no way he can die. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maggie Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Not really fan, and certainly not surprised, but I was sad to hear this news. In reading various articles and comments online I've come across numerous references about the age 27. Not just the "27 club," but the concept that 27 is the beginning of adulthood, a turning point for many, etc.. I know 27 was an especially difficult age for me, though it certainly didn't compare in any way to what I'm sure Amy was going through for various reasons. As a 28 year old woman I think I'm taking more of a sympathetic take on this event than some others are. I really feel for her (and her family and friends), and that's the only reason I can think of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Here's a question: Do those who profited from her drug and alcohol notoriety have blood on their hands? Ultimately, she is responsible for the decisions she made and the addictions she left untreated. But what if managers, publicists, and record label execs all turned a blind eye to her troubles and even encouraged her to release songs like rehab knowing that she was quite possibly killing herself. Do these people bear any responsibility? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Here's a question: Do those who profited from her drug and alcohol notoriety have blood on their hands? Ultimately, she is responsible for the decisions she made and the addictions she left untreated. But what if managers, publicists, and record label execs all turned a blind eye to her troubles and even encouraged her to release songs like rehab knowing that she was quite possibly killing herself. Do these people bear any responsibility? I don't think so. If you're fucked up you're fucked up..... You can get help and with enough willpower, many people end up turning their life around... But ultimately people choose their own fate... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Here's a question: Do those who profited from her drug and alcohol notoriety have blood on their hands? Ultimately, she is responsible for the decisions she made and the addictions she left untreated. But what if managers, publicists, and record label execs all turned a blind eye to her troubles and even encouraged her to release songs like rehab knowing that she was quite possibly killing herself. Do these people bear any responsibility?Well, if as you sat she is ultimately responsible, then you can't rightly put the responsibility on someone else shoulder's too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IATTBYB Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Here's a question: Do those who profited from her drug and alcohol notoriety have blood on their hands? Ultimately, she is responsible for the decisions she made and the addictions she left untreated. But what if managers, publicists, and record label execs all turned a blind eye to her troubles and even encouraged her to release songs like rehab knowing that she was quite possibly killing herself. Do these people bear any responsibility?Was it not these very people who tried to make her go to rehab and she said No, No, No? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The High Heat Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Here's a question: Do those who profited from her drug and alcohol notoriety have blood on their hands? Ultimately, she is responsible for the decisions she made and the addictions she left untreated. But what if managers, publicists, and record label execs all turned a blind eye to her troubles and even encouraged her to release songs like rehab knowing that she was quite possibly killing herself. Do these people bear any responsibility?That question was raised with Elvis' death. Sure, his "Memphis Mafia" was a bunch of relatives and cronies, but, as they pointed out, they tried to get him to stop but he'd threaten to fire them. They figured he'd be better off with them than with a bunch of strangers or by himself. They tried to help Elvis save him from himself, but he was in denial about his drug abuse. Some did leave him because they couldn't tolerate seeing him destroy himself, but the ones who stayed were trying to help manage his addiction with the hope he'd last long enough to overcome it (like Johnny Cash did). He didn't and it was his own damn fault that he died. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 The management, label, and publicist (don't forget, the band) were profiting from her - why would they want her to die? The drugs and alcohol were hindering her from making more money - they all had vested interest in her getting help/well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 The controversy sold. How much curiosity would a sober Amy Winehouse generate? Will her death stop anyone from profiting from her. In the short term they'll profit more. That's why I'm not sure the Elvis analogy fits here either. Elvis's income had little to do with his addictive lifestyle. I think it could be argued that Amy Winehouse's lifestyle generated a huge chunk of her income. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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