lost highway Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I think the hardest possible outcome for me to accept will be never knowing the basics of what's in the report. That might happen too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chez Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 If his report is not made public, couldn't the House call Mueller to testify as part of one of its investigations and basically get his report into the public record through the back-door? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 If his report is not made public, couldn't the House call Mueller to testify as part of one of its investigations and basically get his report into the public record through the back-door? I think so, but I'm not quite the political/legal scholar I was describing above. I hope we're both right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I wonder if WikiLeaks gets their hands on it, if they would release it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I wonder if WikiLeaks gets their hands on it, if they would release it. Full dang circle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditty Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I follow Seth Abramson on Twitter. He has a very interesting theory pinned to his page on what could go down since there are still up to 20 sealed indictments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Today will be interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 This Cohen testimony has been fantastic so far. He is coming across as credible and truthful while the GOP congressmen cant seem to handle him or even land a glancing blow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 This Cohen testimony has been fantastic so far. He is coming across as credible and truthful while the GOP congressmen cant seem to handle him or even land a glancing blow.I don't know. Too little too late. He's had plenty of moments to fess up about Donald, and is going to jail for lying to congress. Not the best kind of witness at this point. Based on everything else that's happened in the last two years, I'm guessing nothing will come of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I do find it humorous every time Cohen shakes his head after talking to a republican. Also it also seems like all the R's really want to get in the book agent business and they are angling for their first client. Of course Cohen is going to write a book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 all the GOP Reps: "Mr. Cohen, you're a convicted liar, and aren't you ashamed that this is a waste of time?" All the Dem Reps: [actually asking questions about his take on Trump's involvement in wikileaks, the moscow deal, and paying Stormy Daniels] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Every republican said the exact same thing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Every republican said the exact same thing ♂They’re showing their true colors Right. It's all "Mr. Cohen, you are a terrible person, but this doesn't reflect at all upon the person who hired you as their personal lawyer for the last 10 years." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Right. It's all "Mr. Cohen, you are a terrible person, but this doesn't reflect at all upon the person who hired you as their personal lawyer for the last 10 years."Exactly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Good quote from a CNN analyst "Michael Cohen completely lacks any credibility, but he's also completely believable." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 If I were him, I'd just say, and maybe he did. "I pled guilty to perjury because there was a paper trail proving I am lying. Produce that paper trail or any documentation that I am lying today, and I am willing to face the full force of the law for any dishonesty today." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 "Mr Cohen, why did you record your conversations with Mr. Trump?" Uh, because he's obviously a sleezebag and I knew I'd need it when he eventually turned on me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/02/michael-cohen-warns-republicans-i-did-the-same-thing-youre-doing-now/?fbclid=IwAR26YbII1YgNgtKlxl0-y2Or1Ip7XVvIqtHCJ5u3F5D1ZgLSOBSC5blObZo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 It's just amazing to me that the line of questioning Cohen, from the GOP reps, weren't even initiated because "he's a convicted felon - specifically convicted for lying to Congress." Basically: "You lied to me before, why would I put value in anything you have to say today?" But... Is that all they're interested in? Cohen lied to Congress to protect Trump. Right? I mean, that's a fact. Did anyone from the Trump organization come forward to correct Cohen's lies? No? So, problem solved? You caught the liar, and you're satisfied that yes, indeed he WAS lying, but you're not interested in finding out the truth of the matter? You're not interested in what he was lying about? And the GOP reps on this committee all sat there smug as hell, thinking they're doing the right thing in just wasting time by attacking Cohen, because, you know, he's a liar. It's like if you have an awful stink emanating from your basement. It's a dead rat. But to fix the problem, you just spray tons of lysol. There! No more smell! Problem solved! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 But... Is that all they're interested in? Cohen lied to Congress to protect Trump. Right? I mean, that's a fact. Did anyone from the Trump organization come forward to correct Cohen's lies? No? So, problem solved? You caught the liar, and you're satisfied that yes, indeed he WAS lying, but you're not interested in finding out the truth of the matter? Yes, thank you for putting this into words. I feel like none of the pundits, or news comedians have hit this point yet. Cohen did lie. He lied to protect Trump. You can't then call him a liar in order to protect Trump yourself when his very lies were in the service of Trump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Video has surfaced of Rep. Mark "I found one black person who says Trump isn't racist...wait, sobs, did you just call me racist?" Meadows (R-N.C.) repeatedly being racist against Obama. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/28/video-mark-meadows-saying-send-obama-home-kenya-resurfaces-hours-after-hes-accused-racist-stunt/?utm_term=.30c8b2516401&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Wow that Mueller thing didn't turn out as bad for Trump as I predicted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Wow that Mueller thing didn't turn out as bad for Trump as I predicted. Based on what we know so far, It didn't turn out bad for Trump in any sense of the word. This is the biggest win of his entire life. This is what he'll be remembered for, forever. His favorability rating will probably skyrocket in the next round of polling, and stay higher than it has ever been to date. The democrats will be widely seen as overplaying a losing hand and the ongoing investigations will backfire. And he's virtually guaranteed a second term now. It causes me physical pain to believe even one of those things, but I firmly believe all of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditty Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Check out Seth Abrams Twitter feed for insight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Who is Seth Abrams? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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