Oh, I think we all "get" how good those are. I don't see much ragging on either of those on this board. What I see in most of the SBS posts is that most of us actually enjoy watching the transformation of the band, especially when it doesn't involve implosion. The ones who seem to be down on SBS seem to want to keep Wilco in a box. Who knows, maybe they'll follow this up with something that's more in line with everyone's expectations. In the meantime, I'm pretty content with the new album and a new tour..... good times.