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Strange thing, I was one who kind of was lost on the Shephard's Dog, preferring the more stripped down intimate I & W. So boy was excited about the Fall 07 release and unfortunately it just fell flat. Those felt like true demos and nothing more. Anyway, maybe it is the lyrical content of those songs that miss a little for me. All I know is when I listen to every I & W release and outtakes up and till Shephards Dog I'm blown away and then i get to Shephards Dog and I feel a complete meh.

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Anyone else looking forward to this collection of rarities. Granted I have many of these songs already, but boy I hope my 3 disc vinyl copy is awaiting me tonight at home. Hearing outtakes and rare tracks from all stages of his career sounds about as good as it gets.

thank you wilco! I eat all of this up like good cereal.

a wilcometer of course! Geez, cmon dude.

Is anyone here getting worn out with reading and writing and over analyzing this album? I'm almost to the point that I am going to stop reading anything about this album because i fear I'm always going to think of this record as the over analyzed message board record. Of course everyone is cold on "you never know". Hip Wilco fans always dislike the single I feel like ranting, but the bottom line is that people are just refusing to let this record be a record. I personally believe it is the internet and the fast pace sped up music world we live in. We can't wait for an album to relea

I think the Ryan Adams problem for many (not to overtly speak for others) is that he headed more in the "mainstream" direction instead of the "indie" direction and everyone from then on kind of keeps him at arms length (both critics and fans). I think after Heartbreaker he was the "it" kid who was going to be the next dylan and all of that. From Gold forward I think people just thought he was reaching for popularity. I think that is not all untrue, but I don't think he ever was anything other than who he was/is. If that makes sense? And I don't think it took away from the songs, although t

So I was streaming this morning, and I guess i'm finally at the point of paying attention to the lyrics. I finally get it, you can't fly with one wing you can only wave goodbye. It is like a magic eye. I see nothing and then wowee there it is! I'm slow

I would comment on just how cool you are, but I don't want to screw up the one good/positive thread on this site in the past 5 days.

1. Dash 7 2. Either Way 3. Pot Kettle Black

That is cool, I guess I'm just not in the club who thinks he has been making crappy albums for the past 5 years. Love Is Hell I believe is his high water mark and 29 is a hauntingly beautiful record. Cold Roses is a sprawling epic record and Easy Tiger contains a mix of strong songs similar but not as good as Demolition. Cardinology was the first to have a few songs that I didn't care for, but man I wore that record out and I just connect with it. I don't know, I just don't see the criticisms as being valid. the guy, despite numerous extracurricular/personality based issues that may

Oh don't get me wrong, I love SBS and WTA, but I guess it is what you are talking about. The songs are recorded to become live vehicles where in the past ST YHF was that even taken into consideration? Of course we don't know, but it is the vibe I get. Anyway, any comparison to DMB is of course going to fall short, so I get where you are coming from.

awesome underrated album

I know I'm in the minority on this, but Cardinology hit me in a big way. I've always believed Ryan is one to those people who goes at things full blast and has crazy energy when he does. So he went crazy in the negative self destructive direction and I felt connected to the energy of his positive vibes on Cardinology. I can honeslty say in a completly biased manner that he has never put out an album that disapointed me. I am also a Ryan Adams fanboy.

Well I learned one thing from this article: I am a hipster (just 10 years too late). That probably just makes me really lame. Although I don't see the DMB link musically (Wilco is not a jam band by any stretch) I do see a similarity in the marketing in terms of the never ending tour and fear that the album making becomes secondary (or just a reason for more touring). But in the end, the songs are the difference and DMB has two songs while I love every Wilco song (because I'm a hipster fan boy)

no apology needed/I wasn't offended. and I tried to make the whole "getting Jeff" thing my personal take on his music. I tried to preface that was MY viewpoint. Hey, I spent most of my 20's being critical and judgemental about people and their musical tastes and in the end of the day we are all different, but I think I rained on a lot of parades by saying "Matchbox 20 is lame". When I first heard Either Way I got that feeling on the inside that I don't get with a lot of music and then to come on here and people saying it's Dad Rock was kind of like "Ok, not for me". I think with Wilco

Ok, my long winded and poor analogied point was simple: why keep coming on here to say "new album is lame". If you are here to talk concerts and old albums cool, but if you see a thread called "I love new album" why jump on to just say "I don't". Hey i've been guilty of this before so I know the behavior. My point is that I think it is poor taste for me a Cubs fan to go to Cardinals blog to say " I think Puljols is on roids" It is merely shit stirring to get a rise.

Ok, I have a thousand thoughts and I will not concisely say them as I wish I could, but the Has Wilco lost their edge? post has prompted me to share. I'm a long timer, since UT days and it is funny to look back on the uproar when Wilco stopped being the little alt country band and now see the uproar when Wilco stopped being the experimental avant gard band (which I didn't ever believe they were). Either way, I have loved all the different styles and incarnations because the one constant has remained the same. Jeff Tweedy and his songwriting. It connects with me. Maybe not as much as when

It just struck me (being the die hard, but slow thinking Wilco fan I am) afterall Jeff wrote a song called Someone Elses Song where he basically addresses this whole issue we are arguing here. I can't believe it took us this long!

we are to assume that Wilco (a band who has a vast understanding of music history and a fan base with an equal understanding of music history) is going to rip off one of the Beatles in a completly overt fashion. I don't buy this, and I really don't think it is that close or similar.

Well according to Wilco (who is sponsoring the stream) it isn't wrong legally. In terms of the pledge, I think you know the answer and the answer is that you would not be abstaining. I like to think of it as harm reduction. Let's avoid downloading, but a little stream here and there will reduce any overt negative risks while still allowing the problem behavior to persist until our motivation improves to complete abstinence.

It is nod to him and nothing more. I mean it really isn't that close in terms of the song itself. We are talking about a slide guitar part that sounds similar in tone. Sometimes I think we are little too involved here. I know I'm going to dodge about 1000 tomatoes for this but, we all become mr. rock critic or mr. musician everytime we analyze this band. I think we should all just listen to the record and enjoy our freaking selves.

Yeah, I kind of got ranty, but I'm sensitive to this whole they need to be YHF all of time and SBS was so lame stuff. I just meant Wilco started as a song/melody focused band and no matter what has been strapped on, desconstructed, experimented with, etc etc, Wilco is still and has alwasy been a song/melody based band that has never changed. For me the hardest songs to get into will always be Spiders and now Bull Black Nova because I think those are out of this bands comfort zone. Everything else in the catalogue fits as strong melody based songs.

You don't miss the old Wilco, you miss the tortured experimental period of early 2000's. AM is the old Wilco and was pretty straight forward and meant a ton to me at the time and Being There was "my" album when I was 19 years old and that was pretty straight forward. Wilco was only Radiohead Jr. for maybe one album, and that comparison is weak even on that one album. SBS was more "Wilco" that AGIB was. I'm starting to heat up>

Ok, a few thoughts on everyone elses thoughts. Can we put away the lame "Dad Rock" put down. I'm a dad and I like Wilco and if that makes something unhip then that is wierd and a shame. Eric Clapton is "Dad Rock". Wilco is a rock band who is admittedly not in their peak but still very worth it. (I don't take the Dad Rock thing personal, it just feels lazy and code for "not Grizzly Bear enough") Who freaking cares? Secondly, I get it SBS is not everyone's favorite, but some here treat it like The Backstreet Boys comback album. My God there are some super ass solid songs on that record