jakobnicholas Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Obama will get torched in the election if he's the nominee. He's one of the most left members of the Senate, his health care ideas would be outrageously expensive, many don't trust his ideas on the economy, what exactly is he going to change?, and people won't like hearing this, but how many moderates will not find it possible to cast a ballot for a black/Muslim candidate? McCain will be unfairly blasted for being too old. And many will claim he's too trigger happy, but he'll also win over a lot of moderates, as he is far less conservative than most Republicans and he has a history of findinig middle ground with Democrats. The Democrats have a golden opportunity this election, but will BLOW it. Typical Democrats. Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 don't believe everything you read in your inbox. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 don't believe everything you read in your inbox. Thanks for playing nice on that one. I just about had a hemmorhage here! Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I will not find it possible to cast a ballot for a black/Muslim candidate. There, fixed it for you. Oh yeah, and I hate to break it to you - he's not a Muslim. Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 and people won't like hearing this, but how many moderates will not find it possible to cast a ballot for a black/Muslim candidate? Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 This should clear things up: Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 ObamaHillary will get torched in the election if she's the nominee.Fixed it for you. Obama's got a chance. Hillary doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Obama wins Maine. He should win everything till Texas, now. I thought Virginia would be close, but he's way ahead in the polls there. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/opinion/10devine.html Superdelegates, Back Off Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Fixed it for you. Obama's got a chance. Hillary doesn't. We'll see in November. Obama is rolling right now because nobody knows anything about him. He's the candidate for "change", so people like him. Once they understand his postions ("they" meaning moderates), they'll be less inclined to vote for him. And, yeah, it's dumb as hell. But when SOME moderates get in the booth, no way in hell are they gonna vote for a minority candidate who was taught Muslim (I didn't read it in my inbox, a-holes. It's fact. I don't think of Obama as Muslim, but I guarantee many Joe Redneck's across America do.....doesn't help that his middle name is Hussein). All of America is not as enlightened and opened-minded and touchy-feelie as all you tree-huggers on this board. Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Easy, Jakob. Not to join in the fray, but you are ill-informed regarding the Muslim bit. But what I really popped on here to say is, Hey! Guess who got a Grammy? Spoken Word: "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream," Barack Obama. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Easy, Jakob. Not to join in the fray, but you are ill-informed regarding the Muslim bit. But what I really popped on here to say is, Hey! Guess who got a Grammy? Spoken Word: "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream," Barack Obama. Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Pleas enlighten my dumb ass regarding Obama's Muslim/no-Muslim background. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 A whole thread about it. Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Pleas enlighten my dumb ass regarding Obama's Muslim/no-Muslim background. No one here is calling you dumb. I just think you're misinformed. I'd recommend you read Obama's autobiography of his family roots & upbringing, "Dreams from My Father". Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 He is not a Muslim, and though he once went to a school in a Muslim country, it was just a school, and lots of western kids went there, Muslim and otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Pleas enlighten my dumb ass regarding Obama's Muslim/no-Muslim background. With all due respect, is it really that fucking hard to Google Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Because there's nothing worse than being Muslim, except maybe Irish, or Mormon, or New Yorker. Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I wish we had a Mormon president. Then we could subsidize Mormon missions and promote riding bicycles. Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 But Kate, we do have a moron president! Oh....never mind. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 But Kate, we do have a moron president! He's Destined for Destiny you know. Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 After we're dead, then we'll know the truth. Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 With all due respect, is it really that fucking hard to Google Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 No, it's pretty fucking easy. I found out his father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims. I found out he spent 2 years at a Muslim school in Indonesia. I found a quote from his book, Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Apparently Obama values commitment to a religious principle, diversity, being well read, and protection for all US citizens. Gee, what a bastard. Link to post Share on other sites
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