Gobias Industries Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 It's true, this time around. Did you see the percentage of McCain's voters on Super Tuesday who identified themselves as being against the war, but then chose McCain as the best candidate to represent their views? It's clear that there's a lot of misinformation out there. I think people would rather have a War on Terror than a Crusade against all non-American peoples, which is the only other view for Republicans... Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I think people would rather have a War on Terror than a Crusade against all non-American peoples, which is the only other view for Republicans...Not real sure I get what you're saying here. Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 John McCain has inspired the nation! I was going to post that, if you hadn't. F'ing brilliant. I laughed til I nearly fell out of my chair. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I was going to post that, if you hadn't. F'ing brilliant. I laughed til I nearly fell out of my chair. [raises fist] Cien anos!! A hundred years? Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 F'ing brilliant. I laughed til I nearly fell out of my chair. I second that!! Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Of course, noone is actually listening to what he says, nor considering the details or realistic possibilities of his plansThis might be the most ill-informed statement I've ever seen on here. It's just ludicrous to think that Obama supporters are stupid enough to toss the guy the keys to city without knowing what he'll do with them. It's not like he's the Pied Piper and we're all plague-ridden rats. I'm not saying there isn't anybody swept away by his rhetoric, but for every one of those there almost has to be an equal number (I'd bet more) of Clinton supporters who back her based on her last name alone. Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 OBAMA/STARDOG 2008. Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 John McCain has inspired the nation! I can see the level of discourse from the viral video crowd. Sad Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 The whole "Yes We Can" thing is such bullshit. I get really tired of Obama supporters sometimes... Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 The whole "Yes We Can" thing is such bullshit. I get really tired of Obama supporters sometimes... Look, Just Do It Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I thought this was interesting. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/20...obama-wept.html And Obama WeptFebruary 07, 2008 9:43 AM Inspiration is nice. But some folks seem to be getting out of hand. It's as if Tom Daschle descended from on high saying, "Be not afraid; for behold I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people: for there is born to you this day in the city of Chicago a Savior, who is Barack the Democrat." Obama supporter Kathleen Geier writes that she's "getting increasingly weirded out by some of Obama's supporters. On listservs I'm on, some people who should know better Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Yeah, that's a lot like the Joe Klein piece. Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I think Hillary supporters are getting worried and picking on Obama supporters. Go Obama! Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 No, unfortunately they're right. It does need to be less about "the campaign" and more about the issues. This other stuff starts to overshadow positions, and that ain't good. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 "The issues" is not Obama's path to the nomination. His campaign is mostly about feelings, which overpower issues much more often than not. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Call me a pessimist, but, even if he is elected, this whole Obama thing has the familiar scent of grave disappointment written all over it. Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 you? a pessimist? nahhhh. Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamin' Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/20...obama-wept.html "We are the ones we've been waiting for," Obama said. "This time can be different because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different. It's different not because of me. It's different because of you."It's funny because this was the part of his speech that moved me. I interpreted it as a "power to the people" message, and perhaps a subtle rebuke to people who are waiting for a leader to rescue them. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Who, us, the same country full of people who break New Year Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 It's funny because this was the part of his speech that moved me. I interpreted it as a "power to the people" message, and perhaps a subtle rebuke to people who are waiting for a leader to rescue them. If that is the case, I like it even more. Telling people they can't take care of themselves or, at least, play a major part in being taken care of...doesn't do a damn thing to help anybody. Along w/ strong policy, we need a leader that makes people feel empowered again...to get people excited about being an American again. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 If that is the case, I like it even more. Telling people they can't take care of themselves or, at least, play a major part in being taken care of...doesn't do a damn thing to help anybody. Along w/ strong policy, we need a leader that makes people feel empowered again...to get people excited about being an American again.In a weird way one of the things I like about him is that he's semi-Reganesque in that sense... without the whole ketchup-is-a-school-lunch-vegetable thing and such. He's for making healthcare affordable so that if you want it, you can get it and not have it be a mandate. Tax breaks for the middle class. Job creation incentives to keep manufacturing here in America. All these things and more are right up any conservative's alley, plus he's got a gift for speaking that's part Kennedy, MLK, and Reagan. What's not to like?* *You can't hold some of his annoying supporters against him. It really is getting creepy at times. Link to post Share on other sites
Chendizzle Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 After learning his economic advisors were Chicago school people, I've definitely cooled off on Obama. I still like him because he seems the most electable over McCain and a tad more liberal than Hillary. I just don't think people should really expect Obama's presidency to be radically different from Clinton's - neither would know a new idea if it walked up and hit them in the head. Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamin' Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 If that is the case, I like it even more. Telling people they can't take care of themselves or, at least, play a major part in being taken care of...doesn't do a damn thing to help anybody. Along w/ strong policy, we need a leader that makes people feel empowered again...to get people excited about being an American again.Then again, I might be totally wrong. Obama is a human Rorschach Test. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Exit polls in VA look good for Hill so far. Not that she's going to win, but she might keep it close enough that Obama doesn't get a huge delegate differential there (poll had shown him leading by ~18%). Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 And then realclearpolitics changes their headline to "Obama wins Virginia Easily" before any of the precincts have come in. Link to post Share on other sites
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