tinnitus photography Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 awful news. i was really hoping that he'd beat cancer and be back on stage this year. last year's show was really great, so i count myself fortunate to have seen it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Aww. I am saddened. In the past few years, I really have come to appreciate Dio's contributions to Black Sabbath. And his contribution to modern culture, \m/, will always be appreciated and cherished. He was a New York state native; I hope the state will honor him in some way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I think he was born in New Hampshire, and then moved to Cortland, New York. There is a street named after him in Cortland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 does he need his own thread? Dio RIP anyway, never a huge fan. however, growing up in the late 70's and 80's i swear i heard a radio commercial for dio coming to town every 6 months. didn't know he was that old. rock on!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Outside of the few people who post in this thread, I doubt very many people here would be all that interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 My first intro to Black Sabbath was Live Evil - It was around 84 and I was in 6th grade. That record didn't make me delve into the Sabbath albums, but albums with Dio. I bought an 8 track of Rising(Rainbow), than Long, Live Rock on record. Finally I bought Elf's Trying to Burn the Sun. Anyway he one the first members of any band that I ever looked into his or hers discography. And I never minded him singing Ozzy' songs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 My first intro to Black Sabbath was Live Evil - It was around 84 and I was in 6th grade. That record didn't make me delve into the Sabbath albums, but albums with Dio. I bought an 8 track of Rising(Rainbow), than Long, Live Rock on record. Finally I bought Elf's Trying to Burn the Sun. Anyway he one the first members of any band that I ever looked into his or hers discography. And I never minded him singing Ozzy' songs. When I think of Dio, I think of Rainbow, as that is where I first heard him. Out of all the albums he made with Sabbath, Heaven and Hell is the best one I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 When I think of Dio, I think of Rainbow, as that is where I first heard him. Out of all the albums he made with Sabbath, Heaven and Hell is the best one I think.Yes. That's the only post-Ozzy Sabbath album that can hang with the Sainted Six. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 When I think of Dio, I think of Rainbow, as that is where I first heard him. Out of all the albums he made with Sabbath, Heaven and Hell is the best one I think. I agree. Heaven and Hell sounds a lot more like a Sabbath album than Mob Rules does. Until last week, I never own either one, thus I haven't listened to them in a long while. I was surprised how different Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules sound. Mob Rules is good, but Heaven and Hell is definitely better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Man what a bummer. Other than James Hetfield circa Master of Puppets, Dio had the strongest voice live* I have ever experienced . RIP. (*Metal) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Yes. That's the only post-Ozzy Sabbath album that can hang with the Sainted Six.What, not a fan of Technical Ecstacy or Never Say Die? Me either. Seeing Heaven & Hell (the song) live on that first tour was terrifying. Terrifyingly GREAT, that is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I think there are some good songs on Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die. It's just that they changed their sound, so they are a different trip. That can be said of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage also. I'd say my favorites are Black Sabbath, and Vol. 4. Not that there is anything wrong with Paranoid, or Master of Reality. The Rainbow albums he was on were Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (1975), Rainbow Rising (1976), On Stage (1977), and Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (1978). The only Dio solo albums I ever really heard were Holy Diver (1983), The Last in Line (1984), and Sacred Heart (1985). I am not really all that familiar with Sabbath albums after Mob Rules/Live Evil, except Born Again (1983), Seventh Star (1986), and Dehumanizer (1992). Of course, there are several of them, with various singers, and players. It amazing sometimes to think about all of the different line-ups of Deep Purple/Rainbow/Black Sabbath/Dio/Ozzy. And all of people they shared among them - in terms of playing live/recording/producing/etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Very sad, from all accounts a very nice guy. I was fortunate to see him back in the late 80's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I agree. Heaven and Hell sounds a lot more like a Sabbath album than Mob Rules does. Until last week, I never own either one, thus I haven't listened to them in a long while. I was surprised how different Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules sound. Mob Rules is good, but Heaven and Hell is definitely better. no one ever seems to talk about _Dehumanizer_. the song "I" is probably my favorite Dio-fronted song ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 no one ever seems to talk about _Dehumanizer_. the song "I" is probably my favorite Dio-fronted song ever. The sound is weird on that album. And of course, it all fell apart again, when Ozzy called and wanted them to play at his so-called last show. Ronnie said no thanks, and who did the show? Rob Halford, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 What, not a fan of Technical Ecstacy or Never Say Die? Me either. Seeing Heaven & Hell (the song) live on that first tour was terrifying. Terrifyingly GREAT, that is. been watching some videos of that song. great stuff. may need to delve into sabbath beyond the hits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 A nice post from Eddie Trunk. One of my favorite songs from the Ian Gillan period:Born Again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 A nice post from Eddie Trunk. One of my favorite songs from the Ian Gillan period:Born AgainThanks for the link to Trunk's site. Ed is one of the most knowlegeable people around when it comes to this particular genre of music, and it's clear that he thought very highly of RJD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Tony's message. More messages from various bands and artists (posted in a thread at Black Sabbath.com) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I think there are some good songs on Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die. It's just that they changed their sound, so they are a different trip. That can be said of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage also. I'd say my favorites are Black Sabbath, and Vol. 4. Not that there is anything wrong with Paranoid, or Master of Reality. Yeah, there are some good tunes on both "Ecstacy" and "Never Say Die" but for the most part I think those redords are a bit more 'spotty' than the others. Actually, I would say "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" doesn't stand up as well as the first 4 (all of which are amazing imo), but "Sabotage" is a different story - I LOVE that record. It could be said that it's a bit over-produced, but damn if Side 1 isn't one of the best sides the band ever recorded. I was a little disappointed with "Live Evil". The production for some reason is just a little odd. Kind of like Rush's "Exit Stage Left". I saw those tours (both bands), and the way it came out bears little resemblance to the sound I remember in the arena. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Yeah, there are some good tunes on both "Ecstacy" and "Never Say Die" but for the most part I think those redords are a bit more 'spotty' than the others. Actually, I would say "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" doesn't stand up as well as the first 4 (all of which are amazing imo), but "Sabotage" is a different story - I LOVE that record. It could be said that it's a bit over-produced, but damn if Side 1 isn't one of the best sides the band ever recorded. I was a little disappointed with "Live Evil". The production for some reason is just a little odd. Kind of like Rush's "Exit Stage Left". I saw those tours (both bands), and the way it came out bears little resemblance to the sound I remember in the arena. I'd agree about the first side of Sabotage. On Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, I really like A National Acrobat, Spiral Architect, and Sabbra Cadabra. You know shit is weird when Bill Ward gets a song on the album. Guns N' Roses use to cover It's Alright. Never Say Die! is better than Technical Ecstasy, that's for sure. You know the story about Live Evil - which is why Ronnie left the first time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I should ask my friend if he's digitized his VHS of us performing Symptom of the Universe at our high school talent show in '90. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I should ask my friend if he's digitized his VHS of us performing Symptom of the Universe at our high school talent show in '90. Make sure and post the link. I still have Sabbath on cassette and vinyl only, except Vol. 4 which is my fave. Are there good remastered CD's with extras that have been released or is there a plan to do that? I don't want to buy them all on CD and have these great deluxe re-issues come out right afterwards. On another note, this album got 5 stars in MOJO, anybody heard it? Tinnitus?: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Make sure and post the link. I still have Sabbath on cassette and vinyl only, except Vol. 4 which is my fave. Are there good remastered CD's with extras that have been released or is there a plan to do that? I don't want to buy them all on CD and have these great deluxe re-issues come out right afterwards. Black Sabbath Deluxe Editions Black Sabbath Paranoid Master of Reality [i have heard that the rest will be out at some point.] Heaven and HellMob Rules Live Evil I love all of that jazz jamming on the first album. That is one of the reasons it is my favorite. I have an original pressing of it on vinyl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 On another note, this album got 5 stars in MOJO, anybody heard it? Tinnitus?: i haven't, but a friend of mine has been raving about it. i would heartily recommend Black Pyramid's self-titled cd...it's really good in a down-tuned/riff swamp sabbathy way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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