TCP Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I am not really a fan of 5.1 or "re-mixing".I don't mind. Obviously early Beatles recordings wouldn't work well in 5.1 but "Tomorrow Never Knows" would be an interesting listen, if they did it properly. It wouldn't really be 5.1, most of it would be 4.0 anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I don't mind. Obviously early Beatles recordings wouldn't work well in 5.1 but "Tomorrow Never Knows" would be an interesting listen, if they did it properly. It wouldn't really be 5.1, most of it would be 4.0 anyways.If they are not forced, they can be great. But all too often the engineer tries to force a swirling sound or something into the mix that doesn't work. How about a 5.1 version of Zaireeka! Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 That makes me wonder - If people primarily listen to music on iPods with earbuds these days, what is the purpose of 5.1 releases? Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The original CD, to my ears, sounded reprocessed, like the monkey that Jeff Goldblum turned inside-out in "The Fly." It sounded like the wanted to isolate all of the parts, rather than find the best mix. Of course, the only ones I bought were Rubber Soul and Revolver - been waiting for a reissue upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 That makes me wonder - If people primarily listen to music on iPods with earbuds these days, what is the purpose of 5.1 releases?Well I'll tell you my purpose in purchasing those release (of which i only have a few). I bought them because they were SACDs or DVD-Audio releases. So while the 5.1 mixes being included were interesting, I primarily bought them to have versions of some of my favorites in higher quality stereo mixes. I'll agree that there is probably a rapidly shrinking market for such releases though. Although vinyl has made somewhat of a comeback due to people looking for better quality. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I don't think I have ever heard anything in 5.1 - I have some music dvds that have that feature, but I don't have the system it would take to listen to them in that way. Link to post Share on other sites
Littlebear Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 These reissues had been planned for last spring, then summer already. And I ended thinking EMI had left them, given the fact the CD market doesn't work well lately. Young people don't buy CDs anymore. At any rate, I'm ready to buy Beatles CDs with a *good* sound. The existing ones are just awful, imo. The mono versions are essential. I can't tell you how much the mono version of "Help!", for example, remains more powerful to me than the stereo one. I can't tell you the feelings I got listening to a mono version of Nowhere Man all night long on a ridiculously cheap radio tape player. It was pure Joy. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 That takes me back - I use to tape Beatle songs off of the radio back in the mid 70s, and I can still hear those tapes in my head. I actually still have those tapes. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Long live mono. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 That takes me back - I use to tape Beatle songs off of the radio back in the mid 70s, and I can still hear those tapes in my head. I actually still have those tapes.When I listen to 'When I'm Sixty-Four' I still expect the line 'stating point of view' to be skipped over, because that's how my copy played it when I was a kid. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 When I listen to 'When I'm Sixty-Four' I still expect the line 'stating point of view' to be skipped over, because that's how my copy played it when I was a kid. The Beatles albums I first heard, and still have, were not exactly pristine copies. And for a very long time, when I heard certain songs, I expected to hear skips and static in certain places. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I still don't understand why my parents had Sgt Pepper's but no other Beatle LPs. Their collection wasn't all that hip otherwise, so it makes me wonder - did everyone buy Sgt Pepper's when it came out? Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I still don't understand why my parents had Sgt Pepper's but no other Beatle LPs. Their collection wasn't all that hip otherwise, so it makes me wonder - did everyone buy Sgt Pepper's when it came out? Sgt Pepper's is the one we did not have. I use to have a picture disc of that album. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 My friend in junior high - his folks had the uniforms/glasses cardboard cutouts copy. Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I have the cutouts but I don't think it's an original pressing. Never looked into it though. Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 i've got all the original pressings apart from Abbey Road, but's that's only cos i stole them from my parents collection. it's not so much that the mono versions sound better because they are mono, but that the beatles only over-saw the mono versions when they were released, so the levels are how they intended. i'd be more than happy to just have stereo if the levels were mixed as well as they were with the mono releases. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I wonder if these will come out on cd: A Collection of Beatles Oldies Hey JudeLive At The Star ClubThe Beatles at the Hollywood BowlLove SongsRock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 1Rock 'n' Roll Music Vol. 2Reel Music There are more - that is just some I could think of. Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Beatles go digital for Rock Band Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I saw that this morning. Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I was listening tothe "De-emphasized Black Triangle" version of Abbey Road this morning.I think that's some sort of remaster job. At any rate it sounds pretty amazing. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I was listening tothe "De-emphasized Black Triangle" version of Abbey Road this morning.I think that's some sort of remaster job. At any rate it sounds pretty amazing. That's a fan made re-master - like Purplechick or Dr. Doc Ebbetts. Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I was listening tothe "De-emphasized Black Triangle" version of Abbey Road this morning.I think that's some sort of remaster job. At any rate it sounds pretty amazing.I'd never heard about this. Just read a review. It's supposedly a flat transfer from the master tapes. I'll have to find a copy of this. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 It comes from this. The Beatles - Abbey Road (Toshiba Black Triangle) This was the first ever authorized Beatles CD worldwide, released in Japan (release date: May 21, 1983). It was issued on the EMI/Odeon label by Toshiba-EMI Ltd. The catalog number is CP35-3016. The CDs were issued with an obi (a paper strip surrounding the CD) on the left hand side and had a black triangle design on the label side. Legal problems caused the CD to be withdrawn from the market. Link to post Share on other sites
GtrPlyr Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The Black Triangle, and Ebbett's (Blue Box, MFSL's...) are pretty hard to beat sound wise. Definitely better than any commercial releases as far as I'm concerned. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 The Usenet Guide to Beatles Recording Variations and The most exciting part of this is that they will be the UK mixes, so they won't have a second round of Fairchild 670 smashing and Capitol reverb. Link to post Share on other sites
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