Hold on just one damn minute...

[LouieB]

Yup that's right...even at this late date, McCain and Obama are basically the same guy....right!!!!

 

Gore and Bush basically the same guy...I just don't know how I missed this somehow....

 

LouieB

[MrRain422]

Represented by who, though? I think that's the point.

 

It's impossible for every viewpoint to be represented equally, and I don't know that it's even desirable for all viewpoints to be represented equally. But everyone has the right to vote for the person that they think either best represents their viewpoint or has the best chance of implementing policies that they find favorable.

[Lammycat]

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[Good Old Neon]

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[Lammycat]

The First Amendment protects the right to bitch for everyone, but as I have said before and will say now, I believe voting is a civic duty and I lose a bit of respect for those who fall down on that duty and I disregard their bitchery pretty much in toto.

I agree it's a civic duty, much as jury duty is, but honestly, does it matter to you if the guy next to you voted or not and if so, how would you even know?

[Lammycat]

It's impossible for every viewpoint to be represented equally, and I don't know that it's even desirable for all viewpoints to be represented equally. But everyone has the right to vote for the person that they think either best represents their viewpoint or has the best chance of implementing policies that they find favorable.

I meant that people who do not vote are as equally represented by whomever is in office as the person who did not vote (for whatever reason). The elected officials do not merely represent those who participated by voting.

[IATTBYB]

Is it too early to start speculating about 2012? From an article about Palin:

 

Palin has been fielding questions about her political future since the campaign ended, most recently in an interview with Fox News on Monday.

 

"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door," she said. "And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door."

 

Palin likely will have competition from other GOP governors and former governors for a 2012 White House bid. Among the potential candidates are former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who failed in his candidacy this year; Florida Gov. Charlie Crist and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour.

 

Several other Republicans are stopping later this month in Iowa, which holds the leadoff caucus in the presidential primaries.

 

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a one-time presidential candidate popular with conservatives, is scheduled to visit Cedar Rapids and Des Moines while on a book tour. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal also plans to tour flood damage in Cedar Rapids and attend an Iowa Family Policy Council dinner in Des Moines.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081111/ap_on_el_pr/palin

[Sir Stewart]

Is it too early to start speculating about 2012?

Yes, yes. A million times - yes.

[Dude]

But unless someone tells you they did not vote or lied and said they did when they didn't how would you know?

Sodium pentothal - works every time.

[jenbobblehead]

The First Amendment protects the right to bitch for everyone, but as I have said before and will say now, I believe voting is a civic duty and I lose a bit of respect for those who fall down on that duty and I disregard their bitchery pretty much in toto.

Quoted for Truf.

[bjorn_skurj]

But unless someone tells you they did not vote or lied and said they did when they didn't how would you know?

Because usually they are all like, "No candidate promised to abolish money, sadness and the Dave Matthews Band, so I didn't vote. Aren't I cool?"

[MrRain422]

Any candidate who promises to abolish DMB will get my vote.

[OOO]

Gun sales surge after Obama's election

[mountain bed]

Any candidate who promises to abolish DMB will get my vote.

Shit man, YOU should run on that platform. In fact, I'll start working on your behalf, Ragin' Cajun Style.

[MrRain422]

 

[bjorn_skurj]

 

Well done, sir.

[explodo]

Gun sales surge after Obama's election

People are so fucking stupid.

[MrRain422]

Well done, sir.

 

I'm not even really sure what to make of it, but thought it was interesting.

[John Smith]

Sure, but the majority of democrats pretty much gave Bush the authorization to do so.

 

Now looking with a little hindsight (though you could have done this contemporaneously) don't you think the Bush adminsitration was going to do whatever they wanted regardless of democratic support or not?

 

OK, but approving a bad idea is not quite the same thing as coming up with it in the first place.

 

Exactly.

[Good Old Neon]

Now looking with a little hindsight (though you could have done this contemporaneously) don't you think the Bush adminsitration was going to do whatever they wanted regardless of democratic support or not?

 

Maybe, maybe not, but what I do know, is that for the last eight years (though we could certainly go back much further), democrats put up the most piss poor resistance to the president and his policies, when they weren

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

 

 

Don't mince words...are you pointing out the racial componant of this election in the deep South?

 

I would feel better if we simply accepted that Obama won overwhelmingly and moved on.

 

I don't have to be wrong for you to be right.

[Sir Stewart]

Don't mince words.

 

You are pushy and bossy and sometimes altogether unfriendly.

[MrRain422]

Don't mince words...are you pointing out the racial componant of this election in the deep South?

 

I would feel better if we simply accepted that Obama won overwhelmingly and moved on.

 

I don't have to be wrong for you to be right.

 

I just thought it was interesting from a historical perspective. Calm down.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

You are pushy and bossy and sometimes altogether unfriendly.

 

Hmmm...a little self examination may be called for here.

 

Pushy? Doubtful. I am more of the passive aggressive type.

 

Bossy? Never really considered that point. But bossy just doesn't seem to fit. Fussy maybe.

 

Unfriendy? I rather think of myself as being an asshole...I am very friendly, just more than a bit unpleasant at times.

[jakobnicholas]

I just thought it was interesting from a historical perspective. Calm down.

 

 

 

I take it those images are the real deal? That's pretty incredible.

 

 

 

I find it intersting that, although many thought that no way would a black man be elected President, that Obama did get elected....in large part BECAUSE of the color of his skin.

 

 

Yes, the fact that Bush had a 25 percent approval rating and that the economy took a nose-dive were gigantic factors, but getting 95 percent of the African-American vote plus a huge number of white guilt votes was maybe equal factors in Obama's "overwhelming" win.