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I thought Queen Latifah sounded horrible, like she hadn't practiced at all. And I usually like her. Not even going to comment on Carrie Underwood because I couldn't get past that outfit she was wearing.

 

(and sorry, I know this doesn't have anything to do with the halftime show)

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Why?

 

Because Daltrey/Townshend were performing songs that they wrote 40 years ago, when they were youngsters.

 

Look man, I agree with you to a point. Music knows no age. But at the same time, they didn't rock it like you are suggesting. Daltrey couldn't hit those notes, Townshend had help (how many guitarists were there?), and two of the original members of the band were missing.

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Because Daltrey/Townshend were performing songs that they wrote 40 years ago, when they were youngsters.

 

Look man, I agree with you to a point. Music knows no age. But at the same time, they didn't rock it like you are suggesting. Daltrey couldn't hit those notes, Townshend had help (how many guitarists were there?), and two of the original members of the band were missing.

For a 12 min. half-time show set-up on a hurried stage I thought it was quite good. RReagardless of when the tunes were written. There will always be mixed opinions on whomever performs. The older folks will not give a hoot about the P Diddys and the younger one's the same with the dinosaurs. I don't think Daltrey missing notes and a second guitarist for a band is an indicator that younger acts need to automatically be booked....

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There will always be mixed opinions on whomever performs.

 

Except for the universal truth that no one has ever topped Prince.

 

(I know my man mtn bed says he never cared about Prince, but I don't know if he ever commented on the man's SB perf)

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For a 12 min. half-time show set-up on a hurried stage I thought it was quite good. RReagardless of when the tunes were written. There will always be mixed opinions on whomever performs. The older folks will not give a hoot about the P Diddys and the younger one's the same with the dinosaurs. I don't think Daltrey missing notes and a second guitarist for a band is an indicator that younger acts need to automatically be booked....

 

I thought it was pretty good too. And the 12 min halftime show is one of the toughest things to pull off. But that wasn't The Who.

 

You are right that you can't please everyone. That's for sure.

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Except for the universal truth that no one has ever topped Prince.

 

(I know my man mtn bed says he never cared about Prince, but I don't know if he ever commented on the man's SB perf)

I've never cared much for him either but thought his performance was pretty cool. Guy can certainly play guitar.

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Because Daltrey/Townshend were performing songs that they wrote 40 years ago, when they were youngsters.

 

Look man, I agree with you to a point. Music knows no age. But at the same time, they didn't rock it like you are suggesting. Daltrey couldn't hit those notes, Townshend had help (how many guitarists were there?), and two of the original members of the band were missing.

 

Missing as in a "lost on an island" type of way or missing as in "being dead"? :thumbup

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Because Daltrey/Townshend were performing songs that they wrote 40 years ago, when they were youngsters.

 

Look man, I agree with you to a point. Music knows no age. But at the same time, they didn't rock it like you are suggesting. Daltrey couldn't hit those notes, Townshend had help (how many guitarists were there?), and two of the original members of the band were missing.

 

Just Simon -

 

They have been playing that way for a while now. I think it is so Pete can concentrate on solos, and jumping around.

 

I've seen video from the last tour. Some nights were better than others, just like any other band I suppose.

 

I say this as a giant Who fan - no matter who is in the group, I still get excited to see them.

 

Wilco only has two members that have been there since the beginning, and they certainly don't make the music they use to make.

 

I still think the only time people really accept old rock stars is when Paul McCartney is playing. Everyone else gets knocked on for their age.

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I loved the performance. For all the huge lighting and effects, it seemed very loose and unpolished. They just got up there like a garage band and knocked it out. No big choreagraphy or anything. I thought Daltrey sounded great. Pete's guitar was mixed right in your face so there was no hiding flubbed notes or anything. Even the medley, although not my favorite thing in the world, worked fine considering the 12 minutes they had. Not sure what there is to find fault with other than no Ox and no Keith Moon. I like living in a world where I can see the who cranking out those classic songs.

 

 

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I still think the only time people really accept old rock stars is when Paul McCartney is playing.

 

I will gladly knock Paul McCartney for his current performances every chance I get (case in point).

 

Pete's playing really was the only thing that saved that performance from being completely horrendous. I also think it was ruined for me as a "CSI Theme Song Medley, Proudly Presented by CBS!"

 

As for the Wilco comparison, I think the new incarnation of Wilco plays best when it plays the songs that were conceived with this incarnation of the band; I don't get much out of them playing pre-2004 tunes (all this to say I don't think your comparison works).

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Hey, I for one, said I enjoyed the Who last night (relatively speaking). No, both my wife and I did enjoy it, what was not to like compared to what Super bowl halftimes can and have been (Except for Prince). My larger point is on the age issue.

 

someone earlier posted they didn't understand my line of thinking. I guess it for me is no different than watching a 55 or 60 year old trying to pitch in an major league game. They may throw one or two wicked curves to remind us of past glory, but overall it is going to be sad on most levels.

 

Even more, with rock stars there are other superficial issues that are cause for concern. The asthetic for me is somewhat important (call me judgemental). When you look back at picture of rock stars in their 20's they tend to always look cool (outside of some era dated fashion issues). the Aging rock star always looks like they are trying way to hard to look cool and that they have no idea what cool is anymore. I mean, how many shiny silk purple shirts does Mick Jagger own? My advice would be, blue jeans and a plain white t shirt never go out of style.

 

Anyway, it just all starts seeming sad and redundant.

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I just can't think of him as anything but a parody of himself. I can't stand any of his solo work, and I can barely stomach what he did with Wings. The live stuff I've seen has had abysmal arrangements, and I just find the whole thing to be a cross between lackluster and just silly.

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I just can't think of him as anything but a parody of himself. I can't stand any of his solo work, and I can barely stomach what he did with Wings. The live stuff I've seen has had abysmal arrangements, and I just find the whole thing to be a cross between lackluster and just silly.

But you don't seem to like non-Beatles McCartney as a whole, so criticizing his live act is a bit unfair, no?

 

I haven't seen him, but I've heard many good reviews of his recent sets.

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Maybe I should have said Prince.

 

I suppose people overlook his age, when they are going on about old guys playing energetic music. Same with Sonic Youth.

 

There must be a line there somewhere - early/mid 50s, ok. If you are later 50s-mid 60s, not ok.

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But you don't seem to like non-Beatles McCartney as a whole, so criticizing his live act is a bit unfair, no?

 

Not at all. I can't stand Prince, but he has an amazing live act. Same with Arcade Fire, or Drive-By Truckers, whom I only sometimes like. Rhett Miller solo - horrible, horrible music, great live show. I can tell when something sounds fun and energetic, even if it's not my cup of tea.

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someone earlier posted they didn't understand my line of thinking. I guess it for me is no different than watching a 55 or 60 year old trying to pitch in an major league game. They may throw one or two wicked curves to remind us of past glory, but overall it is going to be sad on most levels.

 

Even more, with rock stars there are other superficial issues that are cause for concern. The asthetic for me is somewhat important (call me judgemental). When you look back at picture of rock stars in their 20's they tend to always look cool (outside of some era dated fashion issues). the Aging rock star always looks like they are trying way to hard to look cool and that they have no idea what cool is anymore. I mean, how many shiny silk purple shirts does Mick Jagger own? My advice would be, blue jeans and a plain white t shirt never go out of style.

 

Anyway, it just all starts seeming sad and redundant.

Does a great guitarist lose talent over time? I don't know. Who gives a shit what he's wearing, though? It's Pete Townshend. A guy his age trying too hard to look cool? This is a man who used to wear a white body suit on stage....

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There must be a line there somewhere - early/mid 50s, ok. If you are later 50s-mid 60s, not ok.

I think that song-writing is definitely a youngster's game. I can't think of any major artists whose later-life song writing is on par with what they wrote when younger.

 

As for performing, Fogerty still rocks and sounds great. McCartney still rocks and sounds great. Petty still rocks and sounds great. Dylan? Well....

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