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Next show will be webcast too.

 

Capturing the webcasts have proven to be tough in the past for a number of reasons.....including drop outs and connection errors.

 

Good luck if anyone wants to capture and put up on BT sites.

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I think it's a matter of finding a program that basically records whatever is going through your soundcard. Many of the free programs have time limitations, meaning one couldn't record the entire set due to only having the trial version. I'm not going to be at my computer, nor am I tech savvy enough to begin to figure out how to do it. This is my only idea... Is the likelihood of WILCO putting it up for download is pretty small? I know they've done this before and recordings haven't surfaced... as far as I'm aware. Anyway, excited to be there!!!

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u2roolz

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Next show will be webcast too.

 

 

I didn't know what this meant. I thought you meant the next show coming up which would be tomorrow night.

It's actually the Concord, NH one!!!

WOW! Two shows that I'm going to will be webcast!

Who knew?

Does this mean that there will be significant differences between both nights? Or not? Either way it's ok.

 

I think the last 2 back to back shows to be webcast were the last 2 Residency Shows?

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mpolak21

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Next show will be webcast too.

 

Capturing the webcasts have proven to be tough in the past for a number of reasons.....including drop outs and connection errors.

 

Good luck if anyone wants to capture and put up on BT sites.

 

The best way to do it is to probably wait until the stream is archived on WilcoWorld and then grab it that way. The archived streams run much more smoothly than the live ones do. Although of course that means you have to sift through weeks of impatient posters asking where the websteam BTs are.

 

--Mike

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Analogman

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Next show will be webcast too.

 

Capturing the webcasts have proven to be tough in the past for a number of reasons.....including drop outs and connection errors.

 

Good luck if anyone wants to capture and put up on BT sites.

 

What I have seen lately is that only a few get the webcast - due to the fact it only gets posted here. I think if someone wants it, they should figure out how to capture the stream and record it themselves. I am not really a fan of webcasts, that is, messing with them for archival purposes. I suppose we are technically in the clear, as they have no language that bans anyone from doing so.

 

You know this already, so I don't need to tell you. But, I will post it again:

 

Regarding digital stream sources

 

Note: This section pertains to captures of streamed digital audio sources such as satellite broadcasts, webcasts, HD Radio, and the audio portion of digital television dish reception. See elsewhere on this page for policies covering material already captured or circulating as lossy digital files or the audio content of a digital video file or of a video on DVD.

 

Nearly all digital broadcasts and webcasts carry lossily compressed content. For some examples, broadcasts bearing acronyms such as DVB, DAB, and ADR or carried on networks like Sky Digital and Freeview are lossily compressed digital streams. Despite being lossy, they may be shared on DIME, provided that

 

1. No higher-bitrate digicast source is known to be at the trading community's disposal;

2. The description on the torrent's page and the internal info file of the torrent state both the compression format and the bit rate of the broadcast stream; and

3. either ..

Preferably, the lossily compressed material is shared in its original compressed format, even if that prevents dividing it into tracks; or

 

If the stream was transmitted at a bit rate of 192 kb/s or greater (for spoken [but music-related] content, 64 kb/s or greater), it may be shared in a conversion to a lossless compression format.

 

This provision is a special relaxation of DIME's standard losslessness requirement. If the bit rate and the codec are not stated, or if the torrent's information does not acknowledge its descent from a digital stream, then it does not qualify for this relaxation, and if the material proves lossy, the torrent may be banned for lossiness or lack of information or both.

 

NOTE ON TOTAL RECORDER AND SIMILAR SOFTWARE: Webstream sources recorded as .wav with this kind of software are NOT allowed, unless the bitrate of the webstream was 192 kb/s or greater, and the bitrate and format of the original source is stated in the torrent's description. Programs like Total Recorder do not record the source in an unchanged form but convert it.

 

An analog broadcast and a digicast of the same content will, in general, be deemed acceptable alternative sources, and a torrent of each may run on DIME at the same time if there are no other violations in them. If you are posting a torrent derived from an digital broadcast when one from an analog broadcast or an audience capture of the same performance is already on DIME, see the FAQ item on multiple torrents of the same performance and its subsections about alternative versions and the required contrast clause.

 

Here are links for finding out the stream characteristics of some sources:

 

* http://www.satcodx2.com/0282/fra/

* http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dbr.php?link=2&sat=319&lang=en

* http://fr.kingofsat.net/sat-astra1kr.php

* http://www.linowsat.de/

* http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/satellite_tv_bit_rates.php

* http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=76336 (info for a handful of Australian TV stations)

* http://www.digiandi.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1751&Itemid=140

 

For DIME policy regarding lossless digital-stream sources, see this item in our FAQ.

 

Lossless streams

 

For this subsection to apply, the stream itself must be lossless. Capturing a lossy stream in a dub to 1411.2-kb/s files does not make the files lossless; it just bloats them to the size of lossless files and misrepresents them as such.

 

The codec and bit rate of the stream must be stated in the torrent description and in the internal info file. If it is uncompressed PCM audio (example: the 1411.2-kb/s stream in WMA lossless from KEXP), you must divide it into tracks and compress it losslessly for the torrent, as explained at DIME's rules for torrents allowed on the tracker.

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Analogman

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Thanks as always for the informed info, Mike. :thumbup

 

I'm looking forward to this webcast! Pat-TAY! :party

 

I posted that mainly due to the frustration a couple people here have had trying to post a Webcast sourced show at Dime a Dozen. There is no need for someone else to go through the same deal.

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RainDogToo

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From Wilco HQ

 

Tune into live streams of the Wilco shows tonight (Tues.) from the Boston Orpheum and tomorrow from the Concord, NH Capital Center for the Arts. Music begins both nights around 8pm eastern time (US) at http://wilcoworld.net/roadcase/ . Note there is no support band and Wilco's sets have been clocking in at or near the 3 hour mark. Stick around for the long haul. It's well worth it. the HQ programming crew
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