Lammycat Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 i did 25 or more shows in 89 and 90 and i think summer 90 is even better than 89 and thats saying something.I cant say enough things about Cal Expo 90 all three shows. they were pumping better than ever.88 was a great year as well once brent died it was over. there were a couple of decent shows with hornsby but nothing TOUCHED brent deadWait. DBoon? Link to post Share on other sites
dtram Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I saw that YouTube channel the other day, good stuff. I'll check that 94 show out. I have been looking at some of the 94-95 era vids on YouTube and it's kind of amazing to me that they just kept the bus going. I understand they felt obligation to everyone, office staff, fans etc to keep it going but how it was fun with Garcia in that condition is beyond me, it looked like he was about die (which he was i guess.) Glad i was at least able to see him in good shape. Kind of morbid question but does anyone know when he got back on the shit? Guess I'm curious because from what I've read, the coma experience made him never want to go through that again and obviously at some point the demons got to him and that changed. Curious how long he was able to go before his playing really started to deteriorate and if the rest of the band tried to address it. Also read that one of the reasons Bruce left was because he was using. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Check out the "Visions" from spring 95 Philly. Absolutely amazing.... Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Wait. DBoon? yes sir? Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I saw that YouTube channel the other day, good stuff. I'll check that 94 show out. I have been looking at some of the 94-95 era vids on YouTube and it's kind of amazing to me that they just kept the bus going. I understand they felt obligation to everyone, office staff, fans etc to keep it going but how it was fun with Garcia in that condition is beyond me, it looked like he was about die (which he was i guess.) Glad i was at least able to see him in good shape. Kind of morbid question but does anyone know when he got back on the shit? Guess I'm curious because from what I've read, the coma experience made him never want to go through that again and obviously at some point the demons got to him and that changed. Curious how long he was able to go before his playing really started to deteriorate and if the rest of the band tried to address it. Also read that one of the reasons Bruce left was because he was using. seemed to me that he was clean some in 88 and 89 and 90 and started after Brent died. I remember him on some TV special with Carlos Santana and thats when he was sober. Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhX9DJIZ1NU Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hey, hey a show where I was at. My first show where I saw them inside. I had seats that where more less towards the side of the stage and a bit up, a great vantage point to watch Hart and Kreutzman. This run is when Healy was canned - there was a chant of "Turn it up" either at this show or the next one. yeah, i remember that run being kind of quiet. rosemont was always fun. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks for the link. watching the greek 89 show. man, they sure do dick around with their equipment. i never hear a difference in sound. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 santana vid DAMN!!! never seen garcia play a lead like that. Link to post Share on other sites
dtram Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 seemed to me that he was clean some in 88 and 89 and 90 and started after Brent died. I remember him on some TV special with Carlos Santana and thats when he was sober. Yeah, thats what.i thought, it just makes me sad watching all those vids from 89 and seeing how engaged he was and how clearly he was having fun and then to see how fast he slipped, just ashame. Link to post Share on other sites
Dmada Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Things got dilapidated quickly after the 93 tour. Agree about 93' fall 93' MSG shows were my last.The scene had a bad vibe and the shows were downright painful at times. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 been watching a lot of the vids from the link posted a while back. it's so interesting to see how drastically garcia changed when he hit age 40. his voice went in 82, from what i can see. his playing was still great, but gradually went to shit in 91. it's just so weird to see an 81 video with garcia moving around, smiling and singing so well and in a matter of months he's put on a ton of weight and loses his voice. just some observations.c Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 It looks like all of the Europe '72 shows are coming out individually: You clamored. You cried. You called so loudly for single shows from the much-touted tour of '72, we had no choice but to listen! We're proud to announce that we'll be releasing all 22 Europe '72 shows individually, in the order that they occurred, by the end of the calendar year. Get the first 6 shows here. Maybe Calvino can tell us which ones he thinks are the best. Link to post Share on other sites
TLF18 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 love Europe 72.... dont think i have the time/inclination for that massive set, but i love the Grateful Dead and E72 is definitely one of their best records. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I am only up to show 6, the April 16th (Show 5) is a fun show and perhaps my favorite so far. They all sound very good, though at times, Kreutzmann seems a bit low in the mix. Pigpen is great, throughout. I must admit sometimes his organ playing bugs me a bit, not so on this tour. It does suck that the entire Europe 72 run is off of the Archive. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 It's still funny to me that they are putting these shows out with such great care and quality, and people are demanding Mp3 downloads. What other band could put out that many cds and probably not really be all that interested in how much they sell? I bet some people who bought the giant box set are pissed that all the shows are coming out now individually. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 It's still funny to me that they are putting these shows out with such great care and quality, and people are demanding Mp3 downloads. What other band could put out that many cds and probably not really be all that interested in how much they sell? I bet some people who bought the giant box set are pissed that all the shows are coming out now individually. That's why I think it's pretty shitting that they the took it off the Archive - if people what to stream it or rip an MP3 off the Archive, so be it. I am not pissed that they are selling the individual shows - I figured they would. Might as well, like you said, they put all this effort to do every show. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 I figured they would take them down. I've noticed the other stuff that gets released (Dick's Picks/Road Trips) is left on there for streaming only. I'd like to have some of those shows. I think the only one I have from that tour is Hundred Year Hall. Link to post Share on other sites
jimtweedy1977 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I picked up Europe '72 today. I had to decide between that and Pearl Jam 20. But the Grateful Dead was on sale for 10 bucks. It started off with Bertha so it's already off to a great start. I might pick up some of the individual shows along the way. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 I may end up getting that at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 i've got the whole tour for anyone who wants them or individual shows (each version of each show). Highlights for me 4.11, 4.14, 5.7, and 5.26... Missing some shows from 84-87 - beyond that have each shn id... http://db.etree.org/winterland121072 (what's mine is yours) Anyone heard of the Deadhead's Taping Compendium??? Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I picked up Europe '72 today. I had to decide between that and Pearl Jam 20. But the Grateful Dead was on sale for 10 bucks. It started off with Bertha so it's already off to a great start. I might pick up some of the individual shows along the way. ? bertha is not on Europe 72. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 ? bertha is not on Europe 72. Not a huge fan of the new artwork. Vol. 2 just came out. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 i've got the whole tour for anyone who wants them or individual shows (each version of each show). Highlights for me 4.11, 4.14, 5.7, and 5.26... Missing some shows from 84-87 - beyond that have each shn id... http://db.etree.org/winterland121072 (what's mine is yours) Anyone heard of the Deadhead's Taping Compendium??? I have them. The are out of print, but you can sometimes find them for a reasonable price on Amazon. Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I did the Fall 1972 reviews for the compendium and various other shows...in my opinion fall 1972 was much better than the europe 72 tour...9.17.1972 Other One...9.28.1972 Other One...9.27.1972 Dark Star...11.18.1972 PITB...12.15.1972 Dark Star...12.11.1972 Dark Star...12.31.1972 Other One....etc. Wilco hit me the same way the dead hit me...can't get enough... Link to post Share on other sites
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