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IRememberDBoon

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Can we at least get past the idea that whoever voted for The President is someone that is on Govt assistance and wants more?? Seriously. Do you realize how flipping insulting and snot nosed that is?? Like you have all the money and all the lowely Obama voters want your $$$$. FING RIDICULOUS!

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Mr. Heartbreak

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I think we're close to being ready for a lock, but I feel there is still a bit of denouement left in here. I think there are some things to look forward at, some promises to discuss and some perspective to be had. Here is the one that fascinates me:

 

We had a candidate who couldn't be bothered by facts, and he was not elected. It seems the Republican party is ready to regroup and hopefully return to a former dignity, sanity and logic. The game is changing. This country is not a dumb, white country. It is a smart, multi-ethnic country.

 

I have high hopes for how our conversations move forward because they provide the vitality for our democracy (and I'm not just talking about the board here).

 

I admire your optimism and wish I shared it. I am very much concerned that the conversation will go on and on in a dreadfully hyperbolic "Henny Penny" way. Just look at the comments sections of pretty much anything on Facebook or Yahoo or wherever:

 

"Teach your children at young age personal responsibility principles before it's too late and they become these voters."

 

"People who get things like welfare, foodstamps and the such are jumping for joy"

 

"98% Blacks voting for a black just because he's black = racist"

 

"I would love for someone to tell me --When did it become the governments responsibility to pay for housing, unwed mothers, healthcare, food?"

 

"most of you leftist hacks believe in socialism, being govt moochers and sucking the govt TI*T and thinking you should get something for free from people who are actually working for a living. Freaking parasites."

 

"We seriously have to do something about the electoral college. Like take an axe and beat the freakin' crud out of it."

 

"I am sorrowful to the depths of my soul. My country, my people."

 

"Disgusted with all of the ignorance of you blind followers. You'll regret your decision..."

 

"This is truly the Saddest day in the History of our Great Nation."

 

Seriously, I'm just copying and pasting this junk, not even editing if for grammar or spelling. The far right (aided and abetted by FOX) has done such a thorough job of demonizing our President - even worse than what the right pulled on Clinton - that people really think this is the end of the world. Were we that bad on the left when Bush got elected, or re-elected? I felt that Florida was truly stolen in 2000, and had my doubts about Ohio in 2004, but I don't recall anyone saying that Bush was out to destroy this country from the position of President. Maybe that he was an arrogant bully who practiced cowboy diplomacy... :lol

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Can we at least get past the idea that whoever voted for The President is someone that is on Govt assistance and wants more?? Seriously. Do you realize how flipping insulting and snot nosed that is?? Like you have all the money and all the lowely Obama voters want your $$$$. FING RIDICULOUS!

 

Who has that idea?

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That's an interesting article. I will never subscribe to the belief that Fox News is as bad as people say. I think that has taken on a life of its own. Hell, the news side was sticking to its guns about Ohio despite Karl Rove's ravings.

 

The fact that a major contributor to MItt Romney (Karl Rove via his super Pac Crossroads GPS) is analyst on Fox News should really point out how bad Fox News is. Kinda puts Rove's insistance on the Ohio call in to a bit more prespective.

 

Anyone remember when Keith Olbermann got supsended from MSNBC for contributing to three Democratic Congressmen?

 

So Fox News isn't as bad as people say, it is worse.

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"The game is changing. This country is not a dumb, white country. It is a smart, multi-ethnic country"

 

In my view its a dumb multi-ethnic country that has been duped and is insanely polarised. Now let me be nice about this most people in the world are good people when they can be, america is no diffrent, it is full of good hearted people who love there family and friends, now human nature is not that pretty but like I said I am being nice.

 

Now let me be honest when it comes to Politics America has been raped and pillaged over the last centruy there could not be a more ignorant and easily divided bunch in the western world, this is seriously alarming to me. Observing this election was insanity , two men with no ideas spreading hate and lies while there zombie-like followers ate it up spending a billion dollars each ( I wonder what they promised to those secret money men no one cares to think about) leaving the independents to choose the lesser of two evils . So they chose the guy who made them feel good about the future four years ago, who infact turned out to be a hated arogant domestic leader and a foreign warhawk, they chose him over the creepy mormon who told 47% of the country to fuck off, yeah that was a hard one to call.

 

Considering all the video evidence out there showing without a doubt that Mitch Romney is a phoney a liar and crook, that he will say anything to get people to like him, I beilieve it is good that he lost. It is good for our collective unconcious that we did not slip into further insanity. But remeber that the only reason that mass of footage does not exist with Obama is because of the fact that he was only a state senator for a single year, its because he was pushed right through into the white house as a blank canvas for the masses to project anything they wanted unto him , hope they screamed change! they screamed, that actaully happend, fucking bizzare man , strange days. Since then he's become a real politician he's seen the light he knows who's boss.

 

Bush was the preisdent people felt they could have a beer with, who didn't drink and is infact an elitist brat. Obama is the president who people feel they could smoke a joint with talk about you know life , except he wouldn't like you, he would never understand you and he thinks he's better than you. He only participates in all this nonesense to climb the social ladder and feed his ego he dosent care , he's not special.

 

..... but that picture of him hugging his wife still adorable

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The fact that a major contributor to MItt Romney (Karl Rove via his super Pac Crossroads GPS) is analyst on Fox News should really point out how bad Fox News is. Kinda puts Rove's insistance on the Ohio call in to a bit more prespective.

 

Anyone remember when Keith Olbermann got supsended from MSNBC for contributing to three Democratic Congressmen?

 

So Fox News isn't as bad as people say, it is worse.

 

They had him on there to examine the vote count. Something that he is good at. But he's still living off his reputation from 2000 when he knew the networks called Florida wrong, which is why he was adamant about calling Ohio too soon. He was 100% wrong this time, though, and everybody there was rightfully disagreeing with him.

 

As far as having him on in the role he was in versus his contributions to Romney, I'm not sure it's such a big deal. He doesn't host his own show, everybody knows where he is coming from anyway, and his role on election night was limited to examining the vote numbers. That being said, I would be surprised if Fox News had him back next time.

 

And it isn't as bad or worse than people say. It is slanted to the right, but give me a break, it's not the cabal of right-wing nutjobs that it is constantly portrayed as. No more so than MSNBC is a bastion of leftist apologists. Of course, at least Fox News gives equal time to all sides...something MSNBC can't claim. Especially on election night.

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They had him on there to examine the vote count. Something that he is good at. But he's still living off his reputation from 2000 when he knew the networks called Florida wrong, which is why he was adamant about calling Ohio too soon. He was 100% wrong this time, though, and everybody there was rightfully disagreeing with him.

 

As far as having him on in the role he was in versus his contributions to Romney, I'm not sure it's such a big deal. He doesn't host his own show, everybody knows where he is coming from anyway, and his role on election night was limited to examining the vote numbers. That being said, I would be surprised if Fox News had him back next time.

 

And it isn't as bad or worse than people say. It is slanted to the right, but give me a break, it's not the cabal of right-wing nutjobs that it is constantly portrayed as. No more so than MSNBC is a bastion of leftist apologists. Of course, at least Fox News gives equal time to all sides...something MSNBC can't claim. Especially on election night.

 

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Of course, at least Fox News gives equal time to all sides...something MSNBC can't claim.

I will absolutely agree with you that Fox News includes some liberal commentary, but to suggest that they give equal time to all sides is ludicrous.

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Considering all the video evidence out there showing without a doubt that Mitch Romney is a phoney a liar and crook, that he will say anything to get people to like him

Who are we talking about here?

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Sweet Papa Crimbo

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Everything you wanted to know about the fiscal cliff*

 

*But were afraid to ask

 

Worth watching.

 

So now that the election is over, you guys are going to act like this is something new?

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They had him on there to examine the vote count. Something that he is good at. But he's still living off his reputation from 2000 when he knew the networks called Florida wrong, which is why he was adamant about calling Ohio too soon. He was 100% wrong this time, though, and everybody there was rightfully disagreeing with him.

 

As far as having him on in the role he was in versus his contributions to Romney, I'm not sure it's such a big deal. He doesn't host his own show, everybody knows where he is coming from anyway, and his role on election night was limited to examining the vote numbers. That being said, I would be surprised if Fox News had him back next time.

 

And it isn't as bad or worse than people say. It is slanted to the right, but give me a break, it's not the cabal of right-wing nutjobs that it is constantly portrayed as. No more so than MSNBC is a bastion of leftist apologists. Of course, at least Fox News gives equal time to all sides...something MSNBC can't claim. Especially on election night.

 

Msnbc had Steve Schmidt, a republican and former campaign strategist for McCain. He was on most of the night. Who did fox have from the left?

 

And name one person from all the other networks who has given millions of dollars to either PBO or Romney. His analysis is suspect. This showed on election night. A network who has him on presenting anything is suspect. Did they ever mention he ran Crossroads GPS?

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Mr. Heartbreak

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I think Fox IS the mainstream media. They have the largest market share, and therefore, for many people, they are the "fair and balanced" alternative to the loony, liberal left.

Unfortunately, the loony liberal left may include not only MSNBC but also CNN, CBS, ABC, PBS, and just about every internet provider, like Yahoo, AOL, etc., etc.

In other words, it's a world of Fox + conservative bloggers vs. pretty much everybody else.

You can see this effect in articles like this about how "shocked" many of Romney's supporters were by the shellacking:

 

http://washingtonexaminer.com/in-boston-stunned-romney-supporters-struggle-to-explain-defeat/article/2512861#.UJwcjI64K-K

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Msnbc had Steve Schmidt, a republican and former campaign strategist for McCain. He was on most of the night. Who did fox have from the left?

 

And name one person from all the other networks who has given millions of dollars to either PBO or Romney. His analysis is suspect. This showed on election night. A network who has him on presenting anything is suspect. Did they ever mention he ran Crossroads GPS?

 

Joe Trippi was sitting next to Rove the entire night. Plus, it had Kirsten Powers and Bob Beckel on various panels.

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Mr. Heartbreak

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"I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it. It is my style."

- George W. Bush, November 2004, after winning with 286 electoral votes

 

"The recognition that we have common hopes and dreams won’t end all the gridlock or solve all our problems or substitute for the painstaking work of building consensus and making the difficult compromises needed to move this country forward."

- Barack Obama, November 2012, after winning with 332 electoral votes

 

Hard to believe the difference in their reactions to winning a second term. Makes me proud to be a liberal.

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The best 20 minutes I spent today right here:

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/49736294#49736294

 

Rachel Maddow's brilliant post-mortem on the election from last night. I know she's a cheerleader from the left and can be seen as the other side of the Fox coin, but I think she's brilliant, and I think she speaks facts. Anyhow, anyone who was pleased with the results on election day will enjoy watching this I think.

 

We joke in my house that my wife would leave me in a second for Jon Stewart. I may do the same for Maddow. Except I think she may be gay, so my wife has less to worry about :twitchsmile

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=KJPwM8nehkQ Bill Hicks US Presidency/Abortion/No Future ....three for one.

 

"PANTHER is just riffin', I think.Who knows what the hell he means"

 

I was riffing ,that is true but let me just add that I am not trying to put down anyones feelings of pride or point of view politicaly, not at all,

that is simply a window into my point of view.

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Mr. Heartbreak

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For all those of us who have said for months (or even years), that Romney was "out of touch," here is a little bit more proof.

 

 

Mitt Romney 'Shellshocked' After Lost Election, Adviser Says

 

http://www.huffingto...d=232168_maing5

 

 

...the campaign was unprepared for this in part because it had ignored polling that showed the races favoring Obama. Instead, it turned to its own internal "unskewed" polls, which it believed more accurately reflected the situation on the ground

 

I foresee another Bill Maher "Dispatches from the Bubble" segment soon.

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