nalafej Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I take ideas from this forum too often without contributing... I just finished: Our Band Could Be Your Life Ham on Rye Which were both great books On to more VC recommended readings now (Thank you Chicago Public Library for making it easy to get books I want). Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Had been waiting forever for this to hit paperback. Picked it up this weekend and it's been great so far. That book is a masterpiece. His command of language and storytelling is absolutely astounding. I can't say enough about this book. Tha narration changes point-of-view, decades, gender, countries and it doesn't even feel like fiction. Best book I've read this year. Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 It's scheduled next in my reading stack...can't wait from all I've heard! Link to post Share on other sites
markosis Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 That looks interesting - what did you think? I really enjoyed it. Its basically an aging late 20s punk writing in short snippets about working as a sub in special ed classrooms in Portland. I read it in one sitting. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Get back: The Unauthorized Chronicle of The Beatles 'Let it be' DisasterSulpy, Doug After reading this book, you can see why Paul and Ringo don't want the film (particularly any extra footage) to come out. There are many things in this book that I had never heard about. Link to post Share on other sites
the carlos Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Starting With Defiance-Nineteenth Century Arizona Military Posts-Constance Wynn AltshulerThe Toll Road-Prescott to Mojave-Ada Fancher Heckethorn Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I really enjoyed it. Its basically an aging late 20s punk writing in short snippets about working as a sub in special ed classrooms in Portland. I read it in one sitting.Oh, excellent - I'm all over it. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 just finishing, then Noelle Oxenhandler tackles a taboo topic in 'The Eros of Parenthood' By M. V. Wood NOELLE Oxenhandler keeps bracing herself for a heavy helping of hate mail. The Sonoma County author says she wrote The Eros of Parenthood to "reclaim the natural joy in the physical love parents feel for their children." But read those words again: Eros, parenthood, joy, physical love, children. Could you get more controversial? Oxenhandler knows she has left herself vulnerable to being misread, for things to be taken out of context. And then someone could point a finger at her, say that she doesn't take child sexual abuse seriously enough. Perhaps someone could even twist it around enough to say that she's indirectly promoting child molestation. But that hasn't happened--not yet, anyway. Instead, the message of The Eros of Parenthood (St. Martins Press; $25.95), released in February, seems to resonate with people. "I did a radio talk show in New York, and call after call was from people telling me how relieved they were that there's a book like this," Oxenhandler explains as she sits in the garden of her Glen Ellen home. Talking about the physical love we have for our children has become a national taboo, says Oxenhandler, 48, a longtime contributor to The New Yorker and the author of A Grief out of Season, a book about divorce. But it's a truism of psychology that it's what you can't acknowledge that creates problems, and Oxenhandler hopes her book will prompt people to communicate about the topic and to explore their own feelings. In The Eros of Parenthood, Oxenhandler argues that in our fervor to protect children from sexual abuse, the most innocent and nurturing of physical interactions have become suspect. Society has become so vigilant about touching children that the most tender of moments between parent and child are sometimes filled with anxiety and fear. Some parents hesitate to be affectionate, Oxenhandler says, and others feel a judging gaze bearing down on them. Some even fear that their actions may be misconstrued and that their child may be taken away by a government child protection agency. "This unease does not come out of the blue," Oxenhandler writes. "It is not a hallucination or a psychic projection. I have only to pick up the newspaper to realize just how suddenly this haunting presence can materialize into brute reality. There are so many stories." Among the most shocking examples in Oxenhandler's book is a case in the early 1990s of a young mother in New York who panicked because she felt some arousal while breast-feeding her daughter. She called up a local hotline for information. If she had been directed to the La Leche League, anyone there could have assured her that this feeling is normal. Some of the reason for it is chemical: The hormone oxytocin encourages a mother's production of milk, but it is also the same hormone that controls a woman's pleasure during orgasm, so the overlap is not surprising. Unfortunately, the community volunteer manning the phones did not direct the mother to the La Leche League. Instead, the young woman was referred to a rape crisis center, which in turn reported her to the child-abuse hotline. The mother was arrested and the child was taken away for an entire year. It was this unease as Oxenhandler was mothering her own young daughter, this feeling of a stern and frowning face gazing over her shoulder, that prompted the author to write an essay for The New Yorker about five years ago. In it she described this "eros of parenthood" as an "upswelling of tenderness, often with a tinge of amazement, that expresses itself primarily in touch. In its intense physicality, it partakes of the love that also exists between grownup lovers--but it is different in some absolutely crucial ways." Oxenhandler says now, "When I finished writing the essay, I was done with it on a personal level. But then, after it was published, the phone just kept ringing and ringing. For about a two-week period there, it wouldn't stop." Agent after agent was asking Oxenhandler if she could write a book on the subject. "I thought about it for quite some time," she explains. "And I decided that the subject material was rich enough for a book." She said that one of the biggest surprises in researching the book was to find how difficult it was to interview people for The Eros of Parenthood. "It often felt like I was in some oppressive regime in which people were too scared to talk," Oxenhandler says. "They would look left, then right, and then whisper to me." Oxenhandler interviewed one man who wanted to tell her how beautiful his little boy looks when he was taking a bath: "But even that was a huge taboo," she recalls. "Every time he came close to saying something like that, he would preface it with 'This is so hard to say.' "If this book can help people talk openly about the subject of physical love between parent and child," she says, "if it can help one father be able to say, 'My son is so beautiful when he's naked,' without having to preface it with 'This is so hard to say,' then I'll consider my work a success." Oxenhandler's book is full of interviews, research, references to scientific studies. But what sets it apart from most sociology- and psychology-related books is that Oxenhandler is first and foremost a writer, an artist. She does become excited when she talks about the psychological and social concepts described in her book. But the times that she really leans forward in her seat, the times when her hands flash about trying to draw explanations in the air, is when she talks about her craft. Oxenhandler remembers how thrilled she was when she got the idea of using Goldilocks to represent the journey we take in figuring out what is "too hot" and "too cold" when it comes to being intimate with our children. She recalls what a relief it was to remember the poem "The Bath" by Gary Snyder and how she could use that as a vehicle to explore child sexual abuse. Her prose is beautiful, and she loves to play with words and rhythm as she smoothly weaves her message within the stories. The book reads less like an analysis of a social issue and more like an homage to the love between parent and child. "I always knew that I would be a writer," says Oxenhandler, who wrote her first novel at age 8. "It came naturally to me, and I loved doing it. And I also loved living in California. But I felt that I needed to exile myself from both creative writing and California for a long time. So, I became a philosophy major in college, and I moved to New York. "But now I'm back in California and I'm back to being a writer," she continues. "And I feel that I've come full circle. I feel very much at home." Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Gary: how was that one book about a year of miracles.... Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 oh it was tremendous. I really took my time reading it. more about the power of wishes than a course in miracles though I've recommendedit to quite a few people who have really enjoyed it. didn't get it from the library yet? Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I loved "The Year of Wishing", Gary! Thanks for the recommendation. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 oh it was tremendous. I really took my time reading it. more about the power of wishes than a course in miracles though I've recommendedit to quite a few people who have really enjoyed it. didn't get it from the library yet?It came and went from the library with me not having time to pick it up. I'll definitely get on it though. Sounds like an excellent read. Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Now wading thru "The Longest Winter" by David Halberstram. Its a comprehensive look at the Korean war and the major players involved. Who knew MacArthur was a despotic arrogant prick who completely ignored Korea and the US troops stationed there until it blew up? Not me. So far, a very interesting read. Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 This has been mentioned in this thead before. I was OK with most of the Sarah Vowell stuff I'd read previously, and I like hearing her read her stories. But I picked this up from the library yesterday, and finished the whole thing over my lunch hour, and on the bus ride home. There were so many sections that I just wanted to read out loud to whomever was sitting next to me (or some parts, to the whole bus full of people). It was published in 2002, and she covers the 2000 election (and aftermath), 9/11, etc. To be reading it on September 11, in the middle of a contentious election season, probably made it that much more relevant for me. Her take on Al Gore was especially poignant ("poignant" seems like the wrong word... it's funny, but it's also sad, for him and for the whole country). Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Another Roadside AttractionJitterbug PerfumeSkinny Legs and All All those mentioned above have their merits.....one of those merits being a very enjoyable read.Skinny Legs might be my favorite book of all-time. Here is what I just started: Link to post Share on other sites
redpillbox Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 redpillbox, hope you love The Brothers K as much as I did (do). It continues to live in my head. Just finished. Thought the book was really good. Kind of reminded me of a more masculine (i.e. "the story of brothers") "Poisonwood Bible" with baseball standing in for Africa. Some brutal themes in there that tear at you and yet the book leaves you full of hope and optimism. Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 In addition to 'The Longest Winter", I'm also reading (actually almost finished now) "A Walk in the Woods" by Bryson. Gotta say, its restoked the fires in my desire to hike the Appalacian Trail. I wonder how I can sell that one to the wife? Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Just finished. Thought the book was really good. Kind of reminded me of a more masculine (i.e. "the story of brothers") "Poisonwood Bible" with baseball standing in for Africa. Some brutal themes in there that tear at you and yet the book leaves you full of hope and optimism. I'm glad you liked it. I haven't read Poisonwood Bible but obviously need to! I agree about the hope and optimism. I love that in this saga. Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 I'm glad you liked it. I haven't read Poisonwood Bible but obviously need to!Donna, yes! The Poisonwood Bible is fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Donna, yes! The Poisonwood Bible is fantastic. How lucky for me that Brennan is doing volunteer hours at the local library! He's there right now, so a simple phone call & now he's bringing it home in about half an hour. Talk about service! Unfortunately "The Devil in the White City" has been checked out since forever. I may have to break down and buy that. Link to post Share on other sites
redpillbox Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 How lucky for me that Brennan is doing volunteer hours at the local library! He's there right now, so a simple phone call & now he's bringing it home in about half an hour. Talk about service! Unfortunately "The Devil in the White City" has been checked out since forever. I may have to break down and buy that. You're in for a treat. Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Yesterday Sarah and I were in charge of packing up her Grandma Polly's books in preparation for her move into the city. Polly is a Doctor of sociology, and what an incredible collection of literature, most of it non fiction. She gave me this one, which I just started. I have the feeling it's going to be a fascinating read: Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I'm back on an English lit kick: Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Yesterday Sarah and I were in charge of packing up her Grandma Polly's books in preparation for her move into the city. Polly is a Doctor of sociology, and what an incredible collection of literature, most of it non fiction. She gave me this one, which I just started. I have the feeling it's going to be a fascinating read: is that like a scientologist? is most of that about Watts being a drunk and not practicing, but reading about Zen? Because I'd bet it would still be interesting though notnearly as interesting as Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 is that like a scientologist? is most of that about Watts being a drunk and not practicing, but reading about Zen? Because I'd bet it would still be interesting though notnearly as interesting as It's a bio, so probably the drunk part doesn't come until further on in the book. Be my guess he dies from it at the end too. I find interesting that whole group of people who popularized Buddhism in the west in the late 50s and 60s. A cautionary tale if you will. As it were. Your suggestion is duly noted. Link to post Share on other sites
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