Atticus Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 You used to be hard-pressed to find a bigger RA fan than myself, but when he ended tuesday's show with evergreen, I have to admit that I was sorely disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Yeah that Ireland show was the one I was talking about...I guess it was 2006. Link to post Share on other sites
sunken treasure Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Cardinology has some great tracks and some duds....overall it's somewhat sub-par....however, I just made this mix of the best Ryan songs from his last three releases: Easy Tiger, Follow the Lights, and Cardinology Goodnight Rose (Live Version) Born Into A Light Everybody Knows Go Easy Down In A Hole Fix It Two Tears Of Gold Cobwebs The Sun Also Sets Off Broadway Blue Hotel Two Hearts Let Us Down Easy My Love For You Is Real Crossed Out Name These Girls Natural Ghost Follow The Lights I Taught Myself How To Grow Old Stop it's amazing the amount of great songs this guy has. I can't say I would have minded waiting the extra year and hearing Easy Tiger and the best songs on Cardinology combined. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I can't say I would have minded waiting the extra year and hearing Easy Tiger and the best songs on Cardinology combined. I never understand this sentiment. Why would anyone want to wait longer to have less music? Sure, Ryan puts out some duds, but so what? We can all skip over the tunes we don't like, or as you did, create a compliation of his last 3 albums. Isn't it better to have more to choose from? What if my dud is your fave? (Not trying to pick on you, sunken treasure. I've noticed that a lot of people voice similar opinions. I understand "critics" doing it -- they have to be "objective." I'd think the fans would want to sample as much output as possible and filter out what they don't like themselves. Why have Ryan do the filtering for us?) Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Less money spent. Less time wasted. I'd kinda like the three minutes back I spent listening to Halloween Head. I still think there's something to be said about putting out something super solid start to finish. Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 see, i love halloween head. it's fun. Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Guitar Solo! Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Sure, there are songs that some will like and others will hate butthe more is better concept destroys the great album concept. AnyArtist can obviously do whatever they want with their work, but Ryan becomes more interesting to me with a lower volume of more solid work. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I still think there's something to be said about putting out something super solid start to finish. I guess I can't argue with that. There is certainly something special about a really solid album from start to finish and Ryan doesnt appear to have that as a goal. Although some people really dig on 29, and some people hate it. Some people think Cold Roses is perfect and some think it has filler. If I happen to think Cold Roses is perfect the way it is, the last thing I'd want is for Ryan to have self-editted the release down to one super solid disc. Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Sure, there are songs that some will like and others will hate butthe more is better concept destroys the great album concept. AnyArtist can obviously do whatever they want with their work, but Ryan becomes more interesting to me with a lower volume of more solid work. Did you buy SBS on CD or Vinyl? Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Sure, there are songs that some will like and others will hate butthe more is better concept destroys the great album concept. AnyArtist can obviously do whatever they want with their work, but Ryan becomes more interesting to me with a lower volume of more solid work. Understood.Curious -- do you think Exile on Main Street or the White Album could have been great single LPs? I know it's apples and oranges and Cold Roses doesn't hold a candle to either. Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 i can listen to about 1/4 of exile. Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Understood.Curious -- do you think Exile on Main Street or the White Album could have been great single LPs? I know it's apples and oranges and Cold Roses doesn't hold a candle to either. I'm not really thinking cold roses, more that this new release is pretty mediocre as a whole. How many discs of music has he released overthe last, say, 24 months? Even at half that he's prolific. Link to post Share on other sites
intodeep Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I kind of saw the Cardinals on Friday night. At least for an hour. Then Ryan's voice went out and he walked off teh stage. Very disapointing situation. It was my first experience, it was friday night, i was very excited and to get an hour in and have them have to abort was a bit of a downer. New songs sounded very good live.. well the ones i heard at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I kind of saw the Cardinals on Friday night. At least for an hour. Then Ryan's voice went out and he walked off teh stage. Very disapointing situation. It was my first experience, it was friday night, i was very excited and to get an hour in and have them have to abort was a bit of a downer. New songs sounded very good live.. well the ones i heard at least. Atlanta...Hi everyone, Brad here Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Not just that but this as well... The blog has been retitled: "choose life fuck this"and says: walking pneumoniacan Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Must not be using the patch. I don't see that post - taken down already? Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 It's on Foggy not the Cardinal Cave Foggy Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Oh, he is doing that again. I see. Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Yeah it's been back up for...I wanna say about a week...nothing new since about Friday, until today. There was a post earlier (basically a big "fuck you" to Stereogum for talking about the whole Courtney Love thing) and then this. I'm not sure what to think. It's hard to understand the meaning of these: "how many people asked me if i was okay in the cardinals. answer= 0""i look forward to finishing my job so i can get back to work. as in, stuff i actually like with people who actually are interested.""i hope you don Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 god people are assholes. usually if you lose you're voice, you're sick & people yell that shit. no wonder musicians meltdown sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Word. Being sick and quitting smoking on top of all that other stuff can lead to some mad frustration/ill tempers for sure. EDIT: And now Foggy is gone. Link to post Share on other sites
HungryHippo Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 sounds likes he's ticked that no one in the band cares that he's sick, be it band members/ crew. its strange to think how many people get their paychecks solely based on his performances and when he can't play due to illness, people likely get pissed. anyways, this is bad news for everyone involved but people need to understand that artists are humans too and aren't perfect, get sick, etc... hope the guy gets better soon. Link to post Share on other sites
bigideas Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 There was a post earlier (basically a big "fuck you" to Stereogum for talking about the whole Courtney Love thing) really - what a delayed reaction.maybe he just saw it when he read the Stereogum early review?is the post addressing Courtney Love saved anywhere? check what is on the Cardinal blog in the sidebar: we are a corporation it's like a lie with jams Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Yeah here's the response to the stereogum stuff: you fucking assholes. fuck you. you actually think i would be so stupid, so disgusting, as to engage in a romantic relationship with “whatever that is” you are such assholes. i was in a steady and happy relationship not to mention made a record with said persons Boyfriend- how that works out that i was romantically connected is a. you are assholes who enjoy this ( you are assholes) b. said person could be reality challenged. so, in a word go fuck yourself. or worse, call that woman up. i certainly was busy at the time making a record and being in love with a wonderful woman. i suppose you can’t see that. i hate this. i want ZERO of this. thanks you were the straw and i am the camel and well, i am better than this i don’t need this shit later. i quit. i’ll finish out what i have to then i quit. i’d rather live a life where i didn’t have to defend my dignity because YOU and CRAZY people are on the loose. seriously fuck you, I think this was a big misunderstanding. I read the stereogum thing the other day and in the beginning they usually tie in links to other related articles and when they said: "The prolific author, Oasis fan and Courtney Love lover Ryan Adams is rarely far from our thoughts." he took it as them saying they were in a relationship...or something. Gaaa...I feel like this is all becoming very Page Six/Perez Hilton. Link to post Share on other sites
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