giraffo Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Giraffo does not like Ryan Adams. yep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H.Stone Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I saw Ryan last year in Ann Arbor, I wore this shirt just for him. His apprehensive face says it all. Is he holding his own right hand to keep from punching you in the face? If that video hadn't been tagged, I wouldn't have known it was Ryan Adams. I have a sampling of his songs from a fellow VCer but have yet to listen to any of them, have never seen him, etc. So watching it without any "baggage," I thought it was just a guy being goofy and drunk. :shrug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
versechorusjvh Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I saw Ryan last year in Ann Arbor, I wore this shirt just for him. His apprehensive face says it all. that's one of the funniest things i've seen in a long time. thanks for making my morning! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Is he holding his own right hand to keep from punching you in the face? If that video hadn't been tagged, I wouldn't have known it was Ryan Adams. I have a sampling of his songs from a fellow VCer but have yet to listen to any of them, have never seen him, etc. So watching it without any "baggage," I thought it was just a guy being goofy and drunk. :shrug Just an FYI - if you want to know more: Over here. That is his new video blog - he took down his youtube account. I listen to Ryan's music all the time. Check out the Stranger's Almanac thread over there while you are at it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Had you said Foxtrot or AGIB I would have maybe agreed. As it stands, I doubt many people would disagree that Sky Blue Sky isn't exactly the most "original" sounding record Wilco has ever crafted. I disagree completely as to my point, while Sky Blue Sky is their "Wilco" record where they sorta mash up rip offs of there own songs in the tone of Jesus etc the whole time,it is still a very original recording. My point is that Ryan Adams would never produce a song like Side With The Seeds or You Are My Face. Maybe Foxtrot and AGIB would make the point better but thats just to easy, I mean ofcourse they are way more original than anything RA has made but so is No Depression for ALTCOUNTRY'S SAKES Heartbreaker is a great record though and RA has a spot in the music I like but when we look back 20 years from now Tweedy is gonna seem like Dylan and Adams well he'll be more of a Donavan. Im not being sensitive but I wouldnt put it past him if he decided to diss Wilco before he recorded that. I mean he basickly says "write the hits america loves a little country a little modern like wilco in designer clothes" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Heartbreaker is a great record though and RA has a spot in the music I like but when we look back 20 years from now Tweedy is gonna seem like Dylan and Adams well he'll be more of a Donavan. To who? The two hundred rock critics who will remember either one of them in 20 years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 he disses himself in the song, when he talks about his southern accent. he's just having a bit of fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alison the wilca Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Why does every RA thread have to degenerate into "I don't get him" and "So-and-so is way better than him?" Everyone has opinions but it is too bad that there can't ever be a thread about Ryan Adams (or U2 or Bright Eyes, for that matter) where the same tired "I don't like it" conversation isn't rehashed as if it were a new concept. I'm not saying it's wrong to express your opinions, I'm saying it is getting annoying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Melissa Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I am so disappointed that this thread was not about a Wilco photo shoot for Vogue. I would love to see any of the boys in a nice couture two-button sport coat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 To me the big issue here is: who decided this needed to be posted on the internet? Very mildly funny, but he blow the Fleetwood Mac and Cheese gag at the end. Does he really think this is worth posting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 You could say the same for 99% of the stuff posted on this board. Probably including that post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
giraffo Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 You could say the same for 99% of the stuff posted on this board. Probably including that post. and that post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 To me the big issue here is: who decided this needed to be posted on the internet? Very mildly funny, but he blow the Fleetwood Mac and Cheese gag at the end. Does he really think this is worth posting?Ryan Adams is famous (infamous?) for posting random shit and rambling rants online...this is nothing new. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Im not being sensitive but I wouldnt put it past him if he decided to diss Wilco before he recorded that. I mean he basickly says "write the hits america loves a little country a little modern like wilco in designer clothes"You're not being sensitive, you're just being stupid. He is saying that something that is a little bit country and a little bit modern is like Wilco (a little bit country) in designer clothes (a little bit modern). Nothing more to it than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 right, but what I got from it was that while he was sorta making fun of himself "fake accent" roots music and all, he was saying Wilco plays the counrty music America loves but wears designer clothes you know, making them a "hip" modern band. Its like hes saying Wilco pretend to be cool while they in actuality make the same type of music that Adams gets critisized for leaning on or stealing. I think Ryan Adams is hillarious and I do enjoy his muisc I'm not idily bashing him, at the same time I am aware of his tendencies to bash Tweedy and I think he is totaly full of shit. He definetly ressents the fact that people treat him like a kid dressed as Gram Parsons for halloween while JTs every word is treated as gospel(rightfuly so). I love how after he says like wilco in designer clothes he looks into the camera pauses and smirks, good stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 right, but what I got from it was that while he was sorta making fun of himself "fake accent" roots music and all, he was saying Wilco plays the counrty music America loves but wears designer clothes you know, making them a "hip" modern band. Its like hes saying Wilco pretend to be cool while they in actuality make the same type of music that Adams gets critisized for leaning on or stealing. I think Ryan Adams is hillarious and I do enjoy his muisc I'm not idily bashing him, at the same time I am aware of his tendencies to bash Tweedy and I think he is totaly full of shit. He definetly ressents the fact that people treat him like a kid dressed as Gram Parsons for halloween while JTs every word is treated as gospel(rightfuly so). I love how after he says like wilco in designer clothes he looks into the camera pauses and smirks, good stuff.You are reading far too much onto this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 To who? The two hundred rock critics who will remember either one of them in 20 years? Well to music fans, so I guess that includes critics. Wilcos records have been culturally important and have influenced many modern records and bands.It might be stupid to compare anyone to Dylan but I was just trying to make the point stick. Wilco have had a few significant Velvet Underground type influential recordseven if people who don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markosis Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 "everybody" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 You are reading far too much onto this. Thats extremly likely but its easter and I have lots of time.But I have read many interviews where Ryan Adams shows his displeasure for being looked at as a Gram Parsons 4.0 or w.e I blame my insanity on Bright Eyes I fell for "Im wide awake its morning" I actually thought he wrote it while hitchhicking on trains across the midwest looking for New York.Im going back to Woody Guthrie I dont care if theres no melodies, Im done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Misplaced Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Tweedy compared to Dylan? Even on any level that is absurd. Please. As a long time lurker the silliness of that comment actually forced me to register. Bottom line, Tweedy and Adams are both extremely talented, people always reference Adams Heartbreaker as his masterpiece, but Tweedy would give his left nut for an album like Jacksonville City Nights. For the record, the Cardinals and Wilco might be the best two American bands playing right now, so, try to balance this out a little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Bottom line, Tweedy and Adams are both extremely talented, people always reference Adams Heartbreaker as his masterpiece, but Tweedy would give his left nut for an album like Jacksonville City Nights. For the record, the Cardinals and Wilco might be the best two American bands playing right now, so, try to balance this out a little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Well to music fans, so I guess that includes critics. Wilcos records have been culturally important and have influenced many modern records and bands.It might be stupid to compare anyone to Dylan but I was just trying to make the point stick. Wilco have had a few significant Velvet Underground type influential recordseven if people who don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 As you all were arguing about whether Ryan is absurd because of this video, all I could think about was a cigarette sticking out of Jeff Tweedy's belly-button... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Misplaced Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 "Wilcos records have been culturally important and have influenced many modern records and bands." Name one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 "Wilcos records have been culturally important and have influenced many modern records and bands." Name one. Well (shot in the dark, I know), they were the first to sanction the release of a record via the internet, without a record label, and prove that the record was still economically viable. I think another band tried that recently and it also worked... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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