JUDE Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Tesla = Nikolai Tesla, not a good google fight Come on man, I used Stryper the first time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 not true... the Flaming Lips have outsold Wilco, and the Shins and Arcade Fire are very close to it. Sonic Youth might have as well, i'd have to double check Soundscan. but they're certainly a more well known name than Wilco and are referenced quite often in pop culture. and you're 24, you don't get to pull the age thing, sorry The Flaming Lips I MIGHT buy, but somehow I doubt it. The Shins HAVE NOT outsold Wilco. Wilco's at 2 million in the U.S. The Shins I doubt have crossed 750k for the U.S. The Arcade Fire don't even have a gold record yet, and you're caiming they've outsold them? you have access to soundscan, get the figures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 The Flaming Lips I MIGHT buy, but somehow I doubt it. The Shins HAVE NOT outsold Wilco. Wilco's at 2 million in the U.S. The Shins I doubt have crossed 750k for the U.S. The Arcade Fire don't even have a gold record yet, and you're caiming they've outsold them? you have access to soundscan, get the figures. Arcade Fire have sold 3.5 million albums worldwide, it's possible Wilco is ahead of them overall, but they also have a crapload more albums than Arcade Fire too... i didn't claim they had sold more, i said they were close, reading comprehension is a good thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ratt - 19,800,000 results Wilco - 5,590,000 results Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wincing The Night Away went Gold, their other 2 records are just shy. the Garden State soundtrack went platinum. That's bullshit counting Garden state for The Shins sales, Kyle. You and I both know that doesn't count for them. Yankee Hotel's Gold as is Being There.AGIB is over 300 units.Summer Teeth is at about 275kA.M. at about 200kDunno for KT and SBS. Wilco's outsold The Shins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Arcade Fire is full of has-beens. Wilco is the most influential and popular band on the planet. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 That's bullshit counting Garden state for The Shins sales, Kyle. You and I both know that doesn't count for them. Yankee Hotel's Gold as is Being There.AGIB is over 300 units.Summer Teeth is at about 275kA.M. at about 200kDunno for KT and SBS. Wilco's outsold The Shins. Anyone who bought Garden State knows who the Shins are. Google fight: Wilco + Scarves: 22,700Green Day + mascara: 206,000 I rest my case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 That's bullshit counting Garden state for The Shins sales, Kyle. You and I both know that doesn't count for them. Yankee Hotel's Gold as is Being There.AGIB is over 300 units.Summer Teeth is at about 275kA.M. at about 200kDunno for KT and SBS. Wilco's outsold The Shins.and Wilco have been around how long compared to The Shins? read again, i never said they outsold Wilco, i said both the Shins & Arcade Fire are likely very close Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Arcade Fire have sold 3.5 million albums worldwide, it's possible Wilco is ahead of them overall, but they also have a crapload more albums than Arcade Fire too... i didn't claim they had sold more, i said they were close, reading comprehension is a good thing. 3.5 million? Source? Do we have Wilco Worldwide figures? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Man I can almost guarantee you that the Arcade Fire have sold more than 500,000 records. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 3.5 million? Source? Do we have Wilco Worldwide figures? Source = i work for the band that was as of November 2007 as for Wilco, dunno, it's probably close though. Arcade Fire are hardly even close to a household name either to be honest. neither band are necessarily "big", but Arcade Fire's name certainly has had more buzz from 2004 on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ratt- 18 million sales (worldwide); 10 million sales (domestic) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Man I can almost guarantee you that the Arcade Fire have sold more than 500,000 records. Neon Bible has shipped 500k, so not sure how long it takes for the RIAA to update their website or not. Funeral was just shy of 400k about a year ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 and Wilco have been around how long compared to The Shins? Which is EXACTLY why Wilco is a more well known name imo; they've cemented a reputation over the past 13 years among music fans. What will really count is how many people still care about The Shins 13 years after Oh, Inverted World, or will still care about The Arcade Fire 13 years after Funeral. The only thing I've agreed with you about thus far are Sonic Youth being a bigger pop culture name than Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 well, i know it may be blasphemy, but i'd take Funeral over any Wilco record (although YHF & Being There are certainly close), so i don't really care what music fans think of Arcade Fire in 13 years, it's already made a huge impact on me and that's all that matters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Neon Bible has shipped 500k, so not sure how long it takes for the RIAA to update their website or not. Funeral was just shy of 400k about a year ago. Doesn't RIAA require you to pay them to update? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Which is EXACTLY why Wilco is a more well known name imo; they've cemented a reputation over the past 13 years among music fans. What will really count is how many people still care about The Shins 13 years after Oh, Inverted World, or will still care about The Arcade Fire 13 years after Funeral. The only thing I've agreed with you about thus far are Sonic Youth being a bigger pop culture name than Wilco. How many people care about AM right now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
noyes Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 well' date=' i know it may be blasphemy, but i'd take Funeral over any Wilco record (although YHF & Being There are certainly close), so i don't really care what music fans think of Arcade Fire in 13 years, it's already made a huge impact on me and that's all that matters.[/quote'] BLASPHEMY. to quote Jeff: "You're wrong. Out!" haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Doesn't RIAA require you to pay them to update?not that i'm aware of. if they do, i doubt the band/label would ever pay it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 well, i know it may be blasphemy, but i'd take Funeral over any Wilco record (although YHF & Being There are certainly close), so i don't really care what music fans think of Arcade Fire in 13 years, it's already made a huge impact on me and that's all that matters. Wow, that is blasphemy. I think Funeral has quite a few clunkers. I'd take at least YHF and Summer Teeth over Funeral. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 How many people care about AM right now? 481 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wow, that is blasphemy. I think Funeral has quite a few clunkers. I'd take at least YHF and Summer Teeth over Funeral. ah the beauty of personal preference taken out of context of the record, there are 2 songs on Funeral that don't stand well on their own (Backseat and Crown of Love), but within the context of the full album they both work well for me. I could take or leave 3 songs on Summerteeth and 1-2 on YHF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 How many people care about AM right now? I said care about the band 13-15 years after their debut. People certainly care about Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 But I'm just a teenager, man. I don't know shit. this is the first thing you've ever posted that I agree with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 length of time bands have been around isn't any less of a factor in what makes a band great than album sales, neither really mean shit in the grand scheme. i'd rather have a band come in and make a huge impact in a short amount of time (Beatles, Pixies, etc.) than bands who far overstay their welcome (Rolling Stones, The Who, etc.). some of my favorite bands/artists of all time only released 1-2 albums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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