explodo Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Pretty amazing to see either of those teams put up over 40 points. What happened? I was watching and figured, alright, this will be like 6 - 3, and then the Vikings marched right down the field and scored and then the Bears followed suit. Kyle Orton looks pretty sharp this year, actually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Pretty amazing to see either of those teams put up over 40 points. What happened? I was watching and figured, alright, this will be like 6 - 3, and then the Vikings marched right down the field and scored and then the Bears followed suit. Kyle Orton looks pretty sharp this year, actually.Yes, he does. He actually threw 4-5 touch down passes. 2 dropped by Booker and a fumble at the goal like by Clark. I think it was just one of those games, where it's a shootout. Not expected between these teams, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Pretty amazing to see either of those teams put up over 40 points. What happened? I was watching and figured, alright, this will be like 6 - 3, and then the Vikings marched right down the field and scored and then the Bears followed suit. Kyle Orton looks pretty sharp this year, actually.A lot of the Bears' points were due to Vikings special teams errors or bad decisions. They squibbed 2 or 3 kickoffs because they were afraid to kick it to Hester. I understand he's a dangerous player, but that gave the Bears a very short field to work with. I'm just glad the Vikings kept it close in Chicago. Our passing game is slowly coming around and defenses cannot just key in on Peterson anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 That Vikings punter is an idiot and/or has terrible instincts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 The more I watch football the more I realize that games are won and lost on special teams more often than on offense or defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Detroit Lions fan here....hopefully one day they will join this NFL I have heard so much about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Detroit Lions fan here....hopefully one day they will join this NFL I have heard so much aboutgood postThe more I watch football the more I realize that games are won and lost on special teams more often than on offense or defense.And at the line of scrimmage. The best runningbacks and QBs all have great offensive lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitty Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 The more I watch football the more I realize that games are won and lost on special teams more often than on offense or defense. Sometimes true in close games, but I have to agree that line play almost always is predictive of the game's outcome. If your O-line monsters are shoving guys around, opening running lanes, and preserving the pocket and if your D-line is effectively hurrying the QB, getting their hands up to bat passes, and clogging opposing RBs then the game is basically yours to win. The thing about special teams TDs is that they are "free" points that affect momentum as much as anything else. And oh yeah... just hail, baby! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 The thing about special teams TDs is that they are "free" points that affect momentum as much as anything else. Oh, I don't disagree with how imporant line play is. But when I say special teams, I mean everything about special teams, and not even the points. I mean field position on both ends -- consistently pinning your opponents deep and/or picking up net yards because of solid returns. Field position changes how the entire game is played. (And penalties on special teams can kill you -- those blocks in the back are so difficult to recover from). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I mean field position on both ends -- consistently pinning your opponents deep and/or picking up net yards because of solid returns. Field position changes how the entire game is played.This is true. I think the Bears have had the best starting field position in the NFL since Hester has been doing his thing. Not always from returns, but short kicks, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitty Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Oh, I don't disagree with how imporant line play is. But when I say special teams, I mean everything about special teams, and not even the points. I mean field position on both ends -- consistently pinning your opponents deep and/or picking up net yards because of solid returns. Field position changes how the entire game is played. (And penalties on special teams can kill you -- those blocks in the back are so difficult to recover from). You never appreciate how important punting is until your team has some scrub back there shanking 'em and constantly leaving the opponents starting off only 55 yards away from the end zone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Lions: LostCowboys: Lost Both are good for the Lions draft! Yay! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Lions: LostCowboys: Lost Both are good for the Lions draft! Yay!And Matt Millen won't be in charge of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitty Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Lions: LostCowboys: Lost Both are good for the Lions draft! Yay! Looks like the Lions will probably have a need at wide receiver now that Williams is gone.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Looks like the Lions will probably have a need at wide receiver now that Williams is gone.... Yay! A wide receiver joke! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitty Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yay! A wide receiver joke! Lions jokes write themselves if you just work in a "drafting a receiver" gag or mention Wayne Fontes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Fontes at least made the playoffs now and again Lions jokes are just too easy, much more fun to make fun of a team like the Cowboys who have all that talent and arent doing jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Mike Nolan has been fired in San Francisco per ESPN. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 How fucking confusing is it that both Jarvis Green and BenJarvus Green-Ellis are on the Patriots? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 How fucking confusing is it that both Jarvis Green and BenJarvus Green-Ellis are on the Patriots?Any more confusing than Ray Allen and Allan Ray being on the same NBA team? Or Roy Williams and Roy Williams? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Any more confusing than Ray Allen and Allan Ray being on the same NBA team? Or Roy Williams and Roy Williams?Anybody want to answer my question with something other than another question? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 How fucking confusing is it that both Jarvis Green and BenJarvus Green-Ellis are on the Patriots?It's really fucking confusing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 How fucking confusing is it that both Jarvis Green and BenJarvus Green-Ellis are on the Patriots?Huh? Anybody want to answer my question with something other than another question?Huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Huh?There is a defensive end who plays for the Patriots named Jarvis Green. There is also a rookie running back who plays for the Patriots (and carried the ball a LOT in the second half last night) named BenJarvus Green-Ellis, whose name sounds like the aforementioned defensive player, surrounded by a different guy named Ben Ellis. It's really not all that confusing, but it's a little odd. Huh?You. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 That one son of a bitch played at Ole Miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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