bleedorange Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Who says they were? Dude could have been taking the fall... I guess that's possible, but what would be the point? There's nothing to protect. He's not a Senator anymore, nor a Pres or VP candidate. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I'm sure everyone here who is outraged is equally outraged at John McCain for cheating on his first wife. I don't condone adultery, but I also don't understand people's fascination with other families' problems. I think someone who tells the country he is fit to hold any political office should hold himself to a higher standard than a jerk or jerkess that cheats on a loving and supportive partner. I still can't get over how addicted to Hollywood people are. Our government is mainly for entertainment purposes now anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I guess that's possible, but what would be the point? There's nothing to protect. He's not a Senator anymore, nor a Pres or VP candidate.Future ambitions, such as a cabinet position, might need protecting. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I guess there won't be an Attorney General Edwards, after all. Big disappointment - I was hoping for an Obama/Edwards ticket at one point. Good thing that never happened. For the life of me - as someone who's been married for over 13 yrs - I simply do not understand the logic of affairs. If your marriage isn't fulfilling, get a divorce. I know it gets more complicated when there are kids involved - but that's all the more reason to do it the right way. Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 sadwi weown jos I am having a problem understanding what you mean to say here. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Believe me, if Hillary had an affair, hetero or otherwise, we would find out about it, even if she was busted down to Chappaqua animal control officer. I think I am still bitter over her staying with a man who cheated on her in front of the nation. I understand their empire status and all, but really.Is that worth staying for? Some say she has balls for staying and running for prez.I disagree. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Future ambitions, such as a cabinet position, might need protecting. But I don't see how having a child with this woman would prevent that. And I don't see a campaign aide claiming to be the father and assuming all the added responsibility just to protect Edwards's shot at obtaining a cabinet position. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 For the life of me - as someone who's been married for over 13 yrs - I simply do not understand the logic of affairs. If your marriage isn't fulfilling, get a divorce. I know it gets more complicated when there are kids involved - but that's all the more reason to do it the right way. exactly... divorce is never pretty, but adultery is way worse Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I'd like to have an affair, but I just don't have the time nor the energy. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 exactly... divorce is never pretty, but adultery is way worse I know of only 2 people my age who's were parents were not divorced at least once. I think that is why I waited so long to marry. Marriage is taken lightly by a lot of people I suspose. Alcohol is usally a big factor in adultery.Isn't it ilegal in some states? Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I have a hard time building up the moral outrage about this kind of stuff that so many do. He's a human, and he makes human mistakes. It sucks for his family, but it's also their deal, not mine. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Isn't it illegal in some states? Both Adultery AND Fornication are still misdemeanors in Minnesota. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 sadwi weown joswhat does this mean? Both Adultery AND Fornication are still misdemeanors in Minnesota.link? specifically fornication? Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Both Adultery AND Fornication are still misdemeanors in Minnesota. serious.Like punishable? I only lived in MN for a summer.Not long enough to get in trouble. and is that why MN doesn't sell booze after 8pm unless it's hot 3%.Or was that just in the twin cities area I was around? Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I agree that this is an issue for him and his family to deal with. But I also have a hard time accepting that a man who freely used his personal life to further his political ambitions (eg, son of steel mill worker, etc.) shouldn't also be held accountable for lying about other aspects of his personal life. Is it fair for him to have it both ways? If not, isn't outrage reasonable? Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I would have no problem with this negatively affecting his political career. Because this is part of his whole package, and many people do judge politicians on that stuff. I just don't care. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I agree that this is an issue for him and his family to deal with. But I also have a hard time accepting that a man who freely used his personal life to further his political ambitions (eg, son of steel mill worker, etc.) shouldn't also be held accountable for lying about other aspects of his personal life. Is it fair for him to have it both ways? If not, isn't outrage reasonable? and I do remember him keeping up his support the wife with cancer I am appearances on many talk shows. Holding her hand lovingly... Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 link? specifically fornication? https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/statute...ord=fornication 609.34 FORNICATION.When any man and single woman have sexual intercourse with each other, each is guilty of fornication, which is a misdemeanor. https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/statute...eyword=adultery 609.36 ADULTERY. Subdivision 1. Acts constituting. When a married woman has sexual intercourse with a man other than her husband, whether married or not, both are guilty of adultery and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both. Subd. 2. Limitations. No prosecution shall be commenced under this section except on complaint of the husband or the wife, except when such husband or wife is insane, nor after one year from the commission of the offense. Subd. 3. Defense. It is a defense to violation of this section if the marital status of the woman was not known to the defendant at the time of the act of adultery. **** I'll let you smart people ponder the significance that Fornication refers to "any man" and "single woman"... Not a "married woman"?Oh wait - a married woman can only commit Adultery... To my knowledge - both of these are "dead" statutes - meaning, they've never been acted upon. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I have a hard time building up the moral outrage about this kind of stuff that so many do. He's a human, and he makes human mistakes. It sucks for his family, but it's also their deal, not mine. it's not the adultery that really bums me out necessarily, moreso that he entered the race with him AND Elizabeth (and likely quite a few others) knowing FULL well about it. so he and his campaign and family kept silent about it for 2+ years... did they REALLY truly think nobody would find out eventually? Link to post Share on other sites
blindgonzo Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I think someone who tells the country he is fit to hold any political office should hold himself to a higher standard than a jerk or jerkess that cheats on a loving and supportive partner. I don't think that anybody should pretend to know what goes on in other people's relationships. I am not saying that Elizabeth isn't or hasn't been a supportive/loving partner, I just don't know, and neither do you. It's none of our business. and I do remember him keeping up his support the wife with cancer I am appearances on many talk shows. Holding her hand lovingly... and again, just because he had an affair it doesn't mean he doesn't love and support his wife and that it was just all an act. People make mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I have a hard time building up the moral outrage about this kind of stuff that so many do. He's a human, and he makes human mistakes. It sucks for his family, but it's also their deal, not mine. I agree with this. and again, just because he had an affair it doesn't mean he doesn't love and support his wife and that it was just all an act. People make mistakes. And was just about to say something like this. I don't doubt that he still loves his wife. Link to post Share on other sites
blindgonzo Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I agree with this. ditto. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I don't think that anybody should pretend to know what goes on in other people's relationships. I am not saying that Elizabeth isn't or hasn't been a supportive/loving partner, I just don't know, and neither do you. It's none of our business. and again, just because he had an affair it doesn't mean he doesn't love and support his wife and that it was just all an act. People make mistakes. by him appearing with his wife to talk about her cancer and how he was there for her blah blah blah (trying to get political points)while in reality he was hanging tough with another... No, this shows how much he loves his wife. Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I'd like to have an affair, but I just don't have the time nor the energy. I hold you to a higher moral standard than others, just because you're Beltmann. As far as politicians keeping their dicks in their pants, if their wives don't care, why should I? I figure it's an combined overflow of ambition and testosterone, and the little guy's still just campaigning. Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I hold you to a higher moral standard than others, just because you're Beltmann. As far as politicians keeping their dicks in their pants, if their wives don't care, why should I? I figure it's an combined overflow of ambition and testosterone, and the little guy's still just campaigning. I know you! Link to post Share on other sites
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