Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Winston Legthigh said: According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_inc...e_United_States Top 5% roughly corresponds with $150k or more (for household). $100k puts you at top 15%.That's what I thought. I think there are more "5%'ers" on here than John Smith thinks. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jules said: I benefit more personally from McCain's plan. Edit: What exactly is the "Top 5%"? I benfit more too by about $400, but I lose in the long run because of reasosn stated before. In 2007 data the top 5% is somewhere between 150K & 200K. Top 1.5% is over 250,000 which is actually where I meant to hit for my comments. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 John Smith said: Top 1.5% is over 250,000 which is actually where I meant to hit for my comments.gotcha. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 John Smith said: In all honesty I seriously doubt anyone on this baord is a top 5% person, though I have been wrong before. To me on the financial end of things, this is peopel voting against their best personal interests. Though I did see a study once where somethign like 20+% of the peopl in the US felt that they were in the top 5%. Maybe that is it. also spot on. so many people in America truly believe their financial status is way higher than it actually is, or vote with the ideaology that "maybe someday i *WILL* be in the top 5%, and these tax policies will benefit me (nevermind the fact that they rarely help them at the time)". when the sad reality is, the % of those folks who will ever reach the top 5% is incredibly minimal and only gets worse as we go along... Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Let me lay out what McCain has shown us he wishes to do. I can very much see the fiscally conservative having a wise stance on government, but this is not it: Continue Bush Tax cuts and aggressive military presence abroad (i.e. the origin of our historic deficit).Bail out Wall Street.Extend individual bailouts for mortgages that will cost another fortune.Pursue a military campaign in Iran.Retain tax breaks for mega-corps.Hand out vouchers for health care.Tax your employer provided benefits. If that is fiscally conservative or effective than I'm utterly confused. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jules said: gotcha. I guess I was wrong (A phrase republicans do not utter), so apparently that taints everything Vote Palin! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 John Smith said: I guess I was wrong (A phrase republicans do not utter), so apparently that taints everything Vote Palin!You're losing it. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jon Bon Jovi just gave a statement, bitterly complaining that Sarah Palin has been using the band's song during her rallies yesterday and today: "We are surprised to hear that our song, "Who Says You Can't Go Home" was used by the McCain campaign at rallies yesterday and today. We wrote this song as a thank you to those who have supported us over the past twenty-five years. The song has since become a banner for our home state of New Jersey and the defacto theme song for our partnerships around the country to build homes and rebuild communities. Although we were not asked, we do not approve of their use of 'Home.'" Jon Bon Jovi threw a dinner at his home for Obama -- $30,800 a plate. Bon Jovi is the latest to complain about McCain's campaign using songs. Heart, Foo Fighters, John Mellencamp and Jackson Browne have also griped. Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jules said: That's what I thought. I think there are more "5%'ers" on here than John Smith thinks. way more Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Winston Legthigh said: $100k puts you at top 15%. really?! jules/jude, want to go throw water balloons at poor people w/ mr. drummond off my penthouse patio? Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Party @ the Moontower said: Jon Bon Jovi just gave a statement, bitterly complaining that Sarah Palin has been using the band's song during her rallies yesterday and today:I was really hoping to discover it was "Runaway" Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Winston Legthigh said: I was really hoping to discover it was "Runaway" or maybe Blaze of Glory? Link to post Share on other sites
kwall Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 John Smith said: The way I look at it is for the most part people have no trouble with the concept of paying more for a Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I wanna know where the candidates stand on the Madonna/Guy Ritchie breakup. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 EL Hypnotic Eye said: really?! jules/jude, want to go throw water balloons at poor people w/ mr. drummond off my penthouse patio?can you imagine? Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 kwall said: main difference being that the ticket is voluntary.if we were to argue semantics, so is making more or less money Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 nice edit Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jules said: I benefit more personally from McCain's plan. Edit: What exactly is the "Top 5%"?Is your vote contingent only on how your finances are affected? Do you not care about people that are struggling or are already homeless? What about foreign policy? Do you prefer more war? Do you want to continue to be dependent of fossil fuel? Funding for education? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 fatheadfred said: Is your vote contingent only on how your finances are affected? Do you not care about people that are struggling or are already homeless? What about foreign policy? Do you prefer more war? Do you want to continue to be dependent of fossil fuel? Funding for education?I just said I don't really care about the taxes, fathead. Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Winston Legthigh said: According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_inc...e_United_States Top 5% roughly corresponds with $150k or more (for household). $100k puts you at top 15%.So he is taxing fewer than 5% cuz his plan his 200g individual, 250g couple. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 tugmoose said: I wanna know where the candidates stand on the Madonna/Guy Ritchie breakup.My guess? Based on Madonna's (alleged) penchant for married men with ambiguous racial background (A-Rod, Jose Canseco), Obama's probably all for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Quote Is your vote contingent only on how your finances are affected? Do you not care about people that are struggling or are already homeless? What about foreign policy? Do you prefer more war? Do you want to continue to be dependent of fossil fuel? Funding for education? It can be argued that the pragmatics that our system of government is heavily weighted towards pork and lobbyists, ultimately make for very little difference between what one party can accomplish over the other as regards your laundrylist of things that should/shouldn't be approved based on which side of the aisle one agrees with. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 EL Hypnotic Eye said: really?! jules/jude, want to go throw water balloons at poor people w/ mr. drummond off my penthouse patio? Beautiful! Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jules said: nice edit all i added was "if we were to argue semantics" what's the deal? Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Jules said: I just said I don't really care about the taxes, fathead.Huh, you've posted about 70 x's in the last two days on taxes and you don't care about them? Link to post Share on other sites
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