NCAA Football

[PigSooie]

Wait--nobody in the SEC recruited anybody from Kentucky or Arkansas? (not even those states' schools)

 

 

You do understand that it's not even close to signing day for 2010 right?

[jonbama]

maybe there aren't any rapists for kiffin to go after in those states.

[PigSooie]

maybe there aren't any rapists for kiffin to go after in those states.

 

 

That story is really something else.

[quarter23cd]

You do understand that it's not even close to signing day for 2010 right?

Yeah, I know.

[jonbama]

That story is really something else.

 

The circumstances surrounding the event are extremely effed up.

http://www.tsc.state.tn.us/OPINIONS/TCA/PD...4/HooddaOPN.pdf

[PigSooie]

You dipshits want this. Move your icons to the right, and get over it.

 

[Edie]

[jonbama]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/08/06/app-edwards.ap/

[bleedorange]

Sports Illustrated is taking an interesting approach to the private coaches poll ballots.

[cryptique]

Well, shit.

 

If true, this could hasten Rodriguez's departure from Ann Arbor ... which many around here would welcome. Problem is, if they fire him now, they'll probably have to hire another spread-offense coach, because the program is in the process of being retooled for that in terms of recruiting, and otherwise.

 

There's a much longer story at the link within the article below.

 

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Updated: August 30, 2009, 12:57 AM ET

 

Report: Players allege rules were broken

 

ESPN.com news services

 

DETROIT -- Several Michigan football players claim the program regularly violates NCAA rules limiting how much time they can spend on training and practice sessions, according to a published report.

 

Players from the 2008 and 2009 teams told the Detroit Free Press for a story published on the newspaper's Web site on Saturday that the amount of time they spend on football activities during the season and in the offseason greatly exceeds the limits. The players spoke to the newspaper on condition of anonymity because they feared repercussions from coaches.

 

Coach Rich Rodriguez and the university's compliance director, Judy Van Horn, both denied that the football program was violating NCAA rules.

 

"We know the practice and offseason rules, and we stay within the guidelines. We follow the rules and have always been completely committed to being compliant with all NCAA rules," Rodriguez said in a written statement to the newspaper.

 

Van Horn said her department conducts "in-person spot checks of practice during the academic year and summer. We have not had any reason to self-report any violations in this area with any of our sports."

 

One former player who started for Michigan last season told ESPN Saturday night that the report was accurate.

 

The player, who asked not to be identified for fear of repercussions from fans, said in-season Sundays at the football facility lasted from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m., including a one-hour lunch. That would be an 11-hour day. The NCAA daily limit is four hours, the weekly limit 20.

 

The same player said required offseason workouts included three-hour lifts on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and two hours of speed and agility on Tuesdays and Thursday. That's a total of 13 hours; the NCAA limit is eight hours of required workouts.

 

This player said he would tell the Big Ten or NCAA what players were required to do and believes most of his former teammates would, as well.

 

A current member of the Michigan football team, who has started, also told ESPN his in-season Sundays at the football facility lasted from 10 a.m. to 9:30 p.m., although he acknowledged the first two hours were spent in treatment, which is not counted against the restricted hours.

 

The player said this season players will be off on Sundays, practicing on Mondays.

 

The player said he worked out about twice as many hours as the allotted eight per week in the offseason. He asked strength coaches why the workouts seemed excessive and was told that some parts of the exercises, such as core work and injury prevention, were not counted as required.

 

The player said the strength coach told him that the workout plan had been approved by the NCAA.

 

Players told the Free Press that quality-control staff often watched seven-on-seven offseason scrimmages that are supposed to be voluntary and that only training staff are allowed to attend.

 

The Free Press said five of the 10 current or former players it interviewed gave similar accounts of how the program is run and a sixth player confirmed most of the descriptions. Other players gave a general idea of the program. None disputed the allegations, the newspaper said.

 

The players acknowledged they had signed forms stating NCAA rules had been followed and had not told the university's compliance department about their concerns. One player told the Free Press that athletes would get in trouble if they didn't sign.

 

ESPN's Joe Schad and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[IATTBYB]

Well, shit.

 

If true, this could hasten Rodriguez's departure from Ann Arbor ... which many around here would welcome. Problem is, if they fire him now, they'll probably have to hire another spread-offense coach, because the program is in the process of being retooled for that in terms of recruiting, and otherwise.

 

There's a much longer story at the link within the article below.

 

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Updated: August 30, 2009, 12:57 AM ET

 

Report: Players allege rules were broken

 

ESPN.com news services

 

DETROIT -- Several Michigan football players claim the program regularly violates NCAA rules limiting how much time they can spend on training and practice sessions, according to a published report.

 

Players from the 2008 and 2009 teams told the Detroit Free Press for a story published on the newspaper's Web site on Saturday that the amount of time they spend on football activities during the season and in the offseason greatly exceeds the limits. The players spoke to the newspaper on condition of anonymity because they feared repercussions from coaches.

 

Coach Rich Rodriguez and the university's compliance director, Judy Van Horn, both denied that the football program was violating NCAA rules.

 

"We know the practice and offseason rules, and we stay within the guidelines. We follow the rules and have always been completely committed to being compliant with all NCAA rules," Rodriguez said in a written statement to the newspaper.

 

Van Horn said her department conducts "in-person spot checks of practice during the academic year and summer. We have not had any reason to self-report any violations in this area with any of our sports."

 

One former player who started for Michigan last season told ESPN Saturday night that the report was accurate.

 

The player, who asked not to be identified for fear of repercussions from fans, said in-season Sundays at the football facility lasted from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m., including a one-hour lunch. That would be an 11-hour day. The NCAA daily limit is four hours, the weekly limit 20.

 

The same player said required offseason workouts included three-hour lifts on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and two hours of speed and agility on Tuesdays and Thursday. That's a total of 13 hours; the NCAA limit is eight hours of required workouts.

 

This player said he would tell the Big Ten or NCAA what players were required to do and believes most of his former teammates would, as well.

 

A current member of the Michigan football team, who has started, also told ESPN his in-season Sundays at the football facility lasted from 10 a.m. to 9:30 p.m., although he acknowledged the first two hours were spent in treatment, which is not counted against the restricted hours.

 

The player said this season players will be off on Sundays, practicing on Mondays.

 

The player said he worked out about twice as many hours as the allotted eight per week in the offseason. He asked strength coaches why the workouts seemed excessive and was told that some parts of the exercises, such as core work and injury prevention, were not counted as required.

 

The player said the strength coach told him that the workout plan had been approved by the NCAA.

 

Players told the Free Press that quality-control staff often watched seven-on-seven offseason scrimmages that are supposed to be voluntary and that only training staff are allowed to attend.

 

The Free Press said five of the 10 current or former players it interviewed gave similar accounts of how the program is run and a sixth player confirmed most of the descriptions. Other players gave a general idea of the program. None disputed the allegations, the newspaper said.

 

The players acknowledged they had signed forms stating NCAA rules had been followed and had not told the university's compliance department about their concerns. One player told the Free Press that athletes would get in trouble if they didn't sign.

 

ESPN's Joe Schad and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

Imagine how bad they would have been last year without the extra practice.

 

With that said,

 

GO BLUE!!! BEAT WESTERN!!!!

[OOO]

We (USC) decided we're going to start a true freshman at quarterback, which is the first time that's ever happened at the beginning of a season, so the guy is apparently pretty good. Still, I think the Ohio State game is going to be really tough, and his lack of experience might cost us a couple games. At any rate, If he does decent this year we'll be unstoppable the next couple years.

[bobbob1313]

I'm doing play by play for FIU football on the student radio station. I'm a little nervous, actually.

[Gobias Industries]

I'm doing play by play for FIU football on the student radio station. I'm a little nervous, actually.

 

As long as you have a go-to catchphrase, you'll be fine. Like "OUTTTTTAAAAAA HEREEEEEEEE" or something.

[watch me fall]

I'm doing play by play for FIU football on the student radio station. I'm a little nervous, actually.

 

That's so cool, bobbbob. Congrats!

[mpolak21]

Well, shit.

 

If true, this could hasten Rodriguez's departure from Ann Arbor ... which many around here would welcome. Problem is, if they fire him now, they'll probably have to hire another spread-offense coach, because the program is in the process of being retooled for that in terms of recruiting, and otherwise.

 

There's a much longer story at the link within the article below.

 

Every West Virginia fan right now is like the old couple at the end of What About Bob watching Richard Dreyfuss' condo go up in flames. Burn! Burn! Burn!

 

--Mike

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

I'm doing play by play for FIU football on the student radio station. I'm a little nervous, actually.

That's cool. Have you practiced?

[cryptique]

Every West Virginia fan right now is like the old couple at the end of What About Bob watching Richard Dreyfuss' condo go up in flames. Burn! Burn! Burn!

They should be careful what they wish for. There's nothing preventing the NCAA from investigating Rodriguez's tenure in Morgantown.

[bobbob1313]

That's cool. Have you practiced?

 

Somewhat.

 

The game isn't until the 12th, so I'm going to get some game film and practice with that before.

[mpolak21]

They should be careful what they wish for. There's nothing preventing the NCAA from investigating Rodriguez's tenure in Morgantown.

 

Even if they do and they find he broke the same rules, I don't think it will affect the the program that much. It's a slap on the wrist violation anyway from the looks of things. It really just makes him look like a even bigger douche bag, which is certainly fine by me.

 

--Mike

[cryptique]

It's a slap on the wrist violation anyway from the looks of things.

I'm not so sure about that. The phrase "major violations" has been thrown around a lot in reference to this. And as long as the NCAA wishes to perpetuate the myth of the "student athlete," they have to treat violations of this nature pretty seriously.

 

My brother is agitating for the firing of Rodriguez and the hiring of a certain Mr. Shanahan, lately of Denver, Colorado.

[cryptique]

When it rains, it pours.

[mpolak21]

I'm not so sure about that. The phrase "major violations" has been thrown around a lot in reference to this. And as long as the NCAA wishes to perpetuate the myth of the "student athlete," they have to treat violations of this nature pretty seriously.

 

My brother is agitating for the firing of Rodriguez and the hiring of a certain Mr. Shanahan, lately of Denver, Colorado.

 

I think they might end up luring Les Miles away from LSU, but Shanahan or Jon Gruden would be good moves as well.

 

I think this Rodriguez thing plays out by him getting canned at Michigan in the next two years and then taking over at Louisville, and after thinking about that I need to go lay down. I didn't really have a problem with losing him as a coach, he was a horrible game planner and fell back on very predictable play calling too often, but the way he left and the rather shoddy job the AD did in the coaching search, kind of screwed WVU. I am not sure whether it will be short term or long term but I think I might have to get used to 9-4 seasons and trips to the Champs Sports Bowl at least until Obama stops messing around with this health care crisis, a minor issue compared to making a playoff in Division 1-A football .

 

--Mike

[mpolak21]

I have a feeling the BCS catastrophe this year will be a team from a BCS conference like the Big Ten, ACC or Big East going undefeated and passed up in the national championship game by a one-loss team like a Texas, Florida or Oklahoma for the national championship game. I could easily see a one-loss Texas and a one-loss Florida (provided the losses aren't in their conference championship games) edging out an undefeated Penn State in the final BCS rankings, though Penn State would likely be number one in the human polls. Penn State's computer rankings were horrible down the stretch last year, and their non-conference schedule is even less impressive this season. It also could be another relative down year in the Big Ten particularly if USC blows out tOSU again.

 

--Mike

[watch me fall]

What an ugly game last night but at least we won. Still not sure how, since the Gamecocks usually lose games like that. Also, a shout out to my hometown boy Stephon Gilmore.