Synthesizer Patel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 that's cool then! i'd imagine you have up until a week or two before the release date to cancel if you change your mind or want to buy the box sets too. yeah, you can cancel right up until the point they package them. i thought that was the case with most online shops - i think it's probably the law, in england as least. Link to post Share on other sites
bigideas Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 If they sound better, it's not a rip off to me. Yes, I am a sucker. I am ok with that. the albums up until Pepper were all under 40 minutes i believe, so they could have easily included both stereo and mono on each since they're not giving bonus tracks. i think people would prefer that over the documentaries - no idea how much space that takes on a disc - which could be a seperate dvd/doc altogether (now). Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 y'know i never did either... and now i'm glad i also got all the original CD's for pretty damn cheap at Costco years ago (like $8.99 a piece or something) I paid 12-13 dollars each - except for the White Album I have on cd, it was 20 bucks I think. I can't recall if the ABCKO Stones re-masters were more than that - I think they probably were. The last one I bought must have been the Let It Be re-issue, and before that, the BBC sessions. Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 here's a sneak peak of the docs: Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I paid 12-13 dollars each - except for the White Album I have on cd, it was 20 bucks I think. I can't recall if the ABCKO Stones re-masters were more than that - I think they probably were. The last one I bought must have been the Let It Be re-issue, and before that, the BBC sessions.i never dove in and bought any Stones remasters that first time (only have a couple of their records on CD honestly, rest are on vinyl), so i'll have to consider these new ones. Link to post Share on other sites
you ever seen a ghost? Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 no prices for the boxsets yet, right? -justin Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 Not that I've seen. I'm guessing the stereo box will be in the neighborhood of $200, possibly more. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 i never dove in and bought any Stones remasters that first time (only have a couple of their records on CD honestly, rest are on vinyl), so i'll have to consider these new ones. I never owned any of the pre-Beggars Banquet albums ever, so I just went and got them all one day. I picked all the 2002 ABKCO releases from the first one through Let It Bleed. Of the new re-masters, I will probably buy what I already have: Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main St., Goats Head Soup, It's Only Rock 'n' Roll, Black and Blue, Some Girls, and Tattoo You. I don't think I have Emotional Rescue on cd. Link to post Share on other sites
you ever seen a ghost? Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 i was looking at a discounted CD price of $10 (because you are dealing in bulk) X 14 albums, so in the neighborhood of $140-$150? that wouldn't be so bad. also, can someone please explain (without debating), why mono is preferable? is it only preferable on some albums? -justin Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 i was looking at a discounted CD price of $10 (because you are dealing in bulk) X 14 albums, so in the neighborhood of $140-$150? that wouldn't be so bad. also, can someone please explain (without debating), why mono is preferable? is it only preferable on some albums? -justin That's what they were about - stereo was an afterthought. If I recall correctly, The Beatles did really involve themselves with mixing until Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 i was looking at a discounted CD price of $10 (because you are dealing in bulk) X 14 albums, so in the neighborhood of $140-$150? that wouldn't be so bad. also, can someone please explain (without debating), why mono is preferable? is it only preferable on some albums? -justinI'd like to think you're correct about $140-150, but it's The Beatles ... they can charge a premium and people will pay. As for mono vs. stereo, I personally haven't dug very deeply into this, but I seem to remember a lot of the early stereo mixes to be pretty bizarre in terms of separation, which meant that the mono mixes could actually be more listenable (depending on your tastes, I guess). Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 i was looking at a discounted CD price of $10 (because you are dealing in bulk) X 14 albums, so in the neighborhood of $140-$150? that wouldn't be so bad. also, can someone please explain (without debating), why mono is preferable? is it only preferable on some albums? -justinMy understanding is that all of the albums (except the White album?) were imagined as mono in the band's view, though the record company released later ones in stereo in the U.S. Also, the first few were released in mono only. Link to post Share on other sites
cgoodwin22 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 They should have both the mono & stereo versions on each disc. especially considering most will be re-buying the CD's. Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 My understanding is that all of the albums (except the White album?) were imagined as mono in the band's view, though the record company released later ones in stereo in the U.S. Also, the first few were released in mono only. the white album was mono too - it's actually the best sounding of their albums in mono. i think it's abbey road that was in stereo. basically, and i'm sure this has been said before, the beatles made the albums in mono and then let someone else mix them in stereo - i don't even think george martin got involved in the stereo mixes, although i could be wrong. they sound much punchier in mono and fuller sounding and the levels are better, plus often it's much more than just the music being mono or stereo, they used different takes, faded stuff in and out, and generally did different things from one format to the other. for example the mono version of helter skelter has a much better drum roll from ringo when it all collapses in on itself, before coming back in again - and there is no "i've got blisters on my fingers" on it either. personally, little things like that make the mono version better - but i guess you've got to hear them to know what i mean. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 All of the early Beatles albums that I have are in mono. That's how I know and love those songs. Listening to them in stereo would be interesting to me from a curiosity perspective. But it would be messing with perfection. And I was burned (badly) by the Pet sounds reissue in stereo which is atrocious. That album should be in mono. All of this is IMO of course. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 i think Abbey Road's stereo mix is pretty damn awesome honestly... certainly for the earlier records i prefer the mono mixes, no question Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 trailer: http://www.beatles.com/press/catalogue/vid...ER_FULL_web.mov Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 i think Abbey Road's stereo mix is pretty damn awesome honestly... certainly for the earlier records i prefer the mono mixes, no question i think abbey road is the only album that was mixed and thought about in terms of stereo, by the band - that's another point about how the albums should be represented how the band intended at the time. who exactly would trust modern day mccartney over 1960s paul mccartney over choosing what's best musically? Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 trailer: http://www.beatles.com/press/catalogue/vid...ER_FULL_web.mov cool! i still want them in mono too though Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 cool! i still want them in mono too though just buy the mono box set then! ;P maybe they'll price that one at like $99, that'd be fair imo Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 just buy the mono box set then! ;P maybe they'll price that one at like $99, that'd be fair imo but i want them in stereo too! what's so wrong with wanting everything for nothing? this is the modern age! Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 trailer: http://www.beatles.com/press/catalogue/vid...ER_FULL_web.movIt would've been cool if they ended that with the date onscreen "09.09.09" and "...number nine...number nine...number nine..." Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 It would've been cool if they ended that with the date onscreen "09.09.09" and "...number nine...number nine...number nine..." i read today that that is how many letters paul has in his surname MCCARTNEY (count them - 9) and that is clearly why he is dead! Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Thank the fucking lord, it's about time they actually do this. Totally getting the mono box set. Maybe I'll just get everything though, frankly, I don't give a damn, this is too good news. Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco75 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 i just watched the rachael maddow show and at the end of the program segment called just enough, her friend kent jones says the remastered cd's are due in september, i think it's about time, i can't wait. Link to post Share on other sites
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