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i read that when SL was originally record, they sat around together in a a studio while recording, so all the instruments bled into eachothers microphones, which gave it that muddy sound (which i dont mind). when the 1999 remaster came out, they managed to separate them from eachother. i've also got a soft spot 'we better talk this over' :)

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Street Legal may not be as good as the 2 studio LPs that preceded it, but really, what is? :P  But it's a pretty damn good record, I still break it out from time to time.

 

I randomly pulled a tape of Dylan at Budokan to listen to at work tonight. About the same time period as SL. I haven't heard it in YEARS. First thought - "Bob Dylan - The Musical". Almost like what Sgt.Pepper The Movie is to the actual album. The vibe (to me) is Bob with the SNL house band from the same period.sounding very much like the times. Like maybe Billy Joel. I mean, the musicianship is really ok, but DAMN it just seems like bland, Broadway versions of most of the tunes, save a few.  

I know what you mean, apparently for the Street Legal tour that the Budolan album is taken from they/he was going for a big soul review kinda thing, but it got too slick and produced, so it sounded more like a Vegas review than a Muscle Shoals review.  i think as I read more stuff that Dylan just tries stuff on impulse and whim and predictably, it often doesn't work out so great.  What is amazing to me is all the times this approach resulted in some of the greatest rock music ever made.  I think it speaks even more to Dylan's brilliance.

 

There are a couple decent moments on Budokan, I think, maybe Shelter From The Storm and Like A Rolling Stone.  Dylan says he was pressured into putting that album out, it was originally going to be just released in Japan.  It was early on in the tour and he says they hadn't hit their stride yet.  Its for completists only, I'd say.

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There are a couple decent moments on Budokan, I think, maybe Shelter From The Storm and Like A Rolling Stone.  Dylan says he was pressured into putting that album out, it was originally going to be just released in Japan.  It was early on in the tour and he says they hadn't hit their stride yet.  Its for completists only, I'd say.

 

the 78 tour got way better/stronger as the year went on. there'ss a popular bootleg from Charlotte in november of that year which is way better than budokan, and it has really good sound quality

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That is quite a lot of money - he must be broke:

 

 

Bob Dylan diehards might want to cancel their next trip to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and reroute to Tulsa, Okla. A 6,000-piece bounty of Dylan’s private writings -- some of them long rumored and seldom seen -- will make its permanent home in the Sooner State, where it will be studied at the University of Tulsa.

 

According to The New York Times, the collection was purchased by the university and Oklahoma’s George Kaiser Family Foundation for “an estimated $15 million to $20 million.”

Yes, that’s an awful lot of money, but the treasure trove of notebooks, letters, films, recordings, photos and more figures to inspire unprecedented study from Dylan specialists, who rightfully view Bob as an essential part of the American cultural canon. Likewise, they plan to house it alongside a collection of Native American art and a rare copy of the Declaration of Independence.

Need an example of what the scholars could dig up? The Times reports the haul contains a letter Barbra Streisand sent to Dylan in 1978, thanking him for flowers and joking a record together.A handwritten note on stationary from The Walfdorf-Astoria, part of the Bob Dylan Archive collection at TU’s Helmerich Center for American Research.Courtesy of George Kaiser Family Foundation and The University of Tulsa.

It also includes a long mythologized notebook in which Dylan labored over the lyrics for his 1975 classic Blood on the Tracks. But not only that, the archives also reveal there were actually two other notebooks from the same period.

The archives date back to Dylan’s earliest work as an artist. Scholars hope to make new discoveries in his creative process, and how it developed throughout his life. Some of his songs underwent over 40 pages of editing, so there should be no shortage of material to dig through.

In a statement, the 74-year old noted he’s happy the archives will be housed alongside the works of his idol (and native Oklahoman) Woody Guthrie. “To me it makes a lot of sense, and it’s a great honor.”

 

 

By way of Expecting Rain:

 

 

Bob Dylan's next album is called "Fallen Angels." Four-song 7" is coming out for Japanese tour and Record Store Day. Side A: Melancholy Mood, All or Nothing at All. Side B: Come Rain or Come Shine, That Old Black Magic.

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The Grateful Dead donated everything to their archive, but would anyone have paid? While I view the Grateful Dead as incredibly important culturally, musically, and spiritually, mainstream academia does not. Dylan is taken more seriously. Wonder if it took that amount of $ because it is Tulsa? Nice to be by Woody's stuff and all, but it will just be collecting dust. Not a big fan of NYC, but it should be there.

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The NY Times piece calling Dignity "minor" is poor reporting.

 

With voluminous drafts from every phase of Mr. Dylan’s career, the collection offers a comprehensive look at the working process of a legendarily secretive artist. Dozens of rewrites track the evolution of even minor songs like “Dignity,” which went through more than 40 pages of changes but was still cut from the 1989 album “Oh Mercy.”

 

They make it sound like it's Wiggle Wiggle. And the average reader might nod and think sarcastically "Great, this will be worthwhile."

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Maybe they are calling it 'minor' because Dignity was never released on a proper record, like Oh Mercy --- only on the Bootleg Series/Greatest Hits Vol. 3, etc/ MTV Release.

 

My first introduction to the song was the MTV Unplugged release - I never did get his Greatest Hits Vol. 3 release.

 

 

I do agree it's a poor choice of words. ('Minor')  - not to mention -- if it was a 'minor' song, why would Dylan and Columbia have it put on Greatest Hits, Vol.3?

 

Just checked - I guess Dylan had no involvement with Greatest Hits, Vol. 3 -- so maybe Dylan, himself, considers it as a minor song.

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I guess that rumor was correct:

 

 

Bob Dylan and his Band are touring the U.S. in June and July with Mavis Staples.

All dates and ticket information will be published on this page. There will be pre-sale tickets for many dates on this tour for American Express cardholders, with no password needed.

For every pair of tickets purchased, you will receive a redemption code to receive a Compact Disk of Bob Dylan’s forthcoming album “Fallen Angels.” (Not available for Indianapolis and Boston.)

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Wouldn't mind seeing a Dylan and Staples show --- maybe Dylan will loosen up a bit and they will share the stage at some point.

 

Would be better if it was his own new material, but I will probably end buying it, anyway.

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This seems like a cool tour and getting an aging Mavis on stage to upstage him will probably help Bob bring more too. 

 

I think we all have to assume that a string of covers is all Dylan can muster any longer.  It's not the worst thing in the world, but more Bootleg Series albums are probably in the works.

 

LouieB

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This seems like a cool tour and getting an aging Mavis on stage to upstage him will probably help Bob bring more too. 

 

I think we all have to assume that a string of covers is all Dylan can muster any longer.  It's not the worst thing in the world, but more Bootleg Series albums are probably in the works.

 

LouieB

I'm not sure why anyone would make that assumption. He's been releasing an album of original material every 3 - 6 years for a long time. Tempest was 2012. I think he's just interested in doing these standards. Hopefully his interest will change, but I'd wait a few more years before assuming the well has dried up.

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