lamradio Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Not here to bash the show, but I just got tired of asking myself "ok, what the fuck is going on???".. So I don't watch anymore. Can't they just be found already... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
u2roolz Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, I had to get something off of my chest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
u2roolz Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq_SURMi1Mo&feature=related Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 :lol I :wub Desmond. I've heard he's not going to be a "major" character this year. That makes me sad... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 The "sista" ending of that actually made me laugh out loud. There has been some confusion over whether or not Desmond is a major character.. most people assumed not as he wasn't in any of the promotional material but he was credited as a main star in the first episode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
u2roolz Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Damon Lindelof's Tweet Someone is a bit touchy. Although, I can't say that I blame him. There's a lot of time left. Let's not rush everything. This is one of the benefits and frustrations about watching the show "live" as opposed to on DVD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Damon Lindelof's Tweet Someone is a bit touchy. Although, I can't say that I blame him. There's a lot of time left. Let's not rush everything. This is one of the benefits and frustrations about watching the show "live" as opposed to on DVD. I don't really blame Damon for that reaction. I frequent the Lostpedia forums and they are ALL over last night's episode for being filler and just generally horrid. And at one point the DarkUFO site had this epi ranked lower even than the one with Nikki & Paulo. It speaks a lot to our society's "instant gratification" mentality. I keep hearing people complain that the "alternate timeline" is a waste of time, and I wonder... don't people realize that there is a PLAN going into the LAST season? I could understand all the grumbling more if this was a series trying to get renewed, but these guys have had an end date in sight for quite some time. I can't understand why people don't have a little bit of faith... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
u2roolz Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Episode 6.09 - 9.60Episode 6.07 - 9.25Episode 6.04 - 9.10Episode 6.01/6.02 - LA X - 9.00Episode 6.05 - 8.75Episode 6.06 - 8.40Episode 6.08 - 7.10Episode 6.03 - What Kate Does - 6.70 According to DarkUFO here are the ratings for this season's episodes that certain people have seen.Take with it what you will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 so do we know what happened after the nuke? did it change everything? do they remember the 70s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 We don't know for sure whether or not the bomb went off. We don't know what the alternate timeline where the plane lands in LA means yet. I would assume those that were in the DI in the 70's remember it, since in Lost time, they were there, like... yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcroach Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 so do we know what happened after the nuke? did it change everything? do they remember the 70s? I've read that the two timelines is THE mystery of the season. It'll take the whole season to figure out/reveal. Did the nuke work? Yes, and No. In the "main" timeline, they all remember the Darma Initiative, of course. In the alt timeline, there's nothing to remember, because they were never there. Or were they?..... I've also read that there will be hints of connections between the two timelines. Characters may interact or break through the wall. Desmond? There was also a hint of that, I think, when Juliet said "Let's go for Coffee, we can go dutch" I feel this will really happen in the 2nd timeline. We also saw some flashes of "memory" with Jack, Kate and Claire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I don't quite have a theory on how the bomb affected the main timeline. All of a sudden they woke up in 2007, at the site of the hatch/swan. I don't know. But in the ALT timeline, the bomb sunk the island? So it wasn't there for the Losties to crash on in 2004. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Federico Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I have a theory about the bomb. Juliette is right. It didn't work - and It worked. Just as the bomb went off there was a time-shift. I think either Jin or Miles makes reference to this. The survivors were shifted in time just as the bomb exploded. That's how they survived. For one time-line the bomb was present and worked - Jack's on the plane, etc. For the other timeline the bomb wasn't present, the survivors lived but stayed on the island. Or I could be completely wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I like your theory. It almost makes sense to me. My only issue is that the time flashes had previously stopped when Locke turned the wheel, and then 3 years went by without a flash. So then coincidentally there was a flash right as the bomb went off? But you're right to some degree:HURLEY: The sky just went from day to night. What happened?! JIN: I think we moved through time. HURLEY: How do you know that? JIN: White flash. Headache. Can't hear. Happened to me before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Federico Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 It almost makes sense to me. That's better than I usually do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boots Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I was thinking that perhaps it was what they were drilling into that caused them to pushed back into 2007 more than the bomb. Remember this is the same place that Desmond was at the end or season 2/start of season 3 when he turned the key and became unstuck in time. It was a different sort of time travel perhaps but that hatch was blown to shit and he was fine. The other thing is that although the Island sank it seemed pretty intact when they did that shot from the airplane to the bottom of the ocean (those FX's were horrible btw). Perhaps the bomb didn't even go off and whatever sent them forward in time and sank the Island was something else alltogether.Right now we have a sunk Island that didn't look like Hiroshima and the losties shot through time, that in my mind leans against the bomb going off and more to something else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcroach Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Anyone else notice that Claire's ultrasound was dated one month later than the original Flight 815? I didn't catch it myself. Saw it on Lostpedia. I've turned into a full blown fanboy in like 7 months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I rewatched the season 5 finale the other night. At one point, as Jack is going to throw the bomb into the hole, Miles says something interesting, along the lines of "what if Jack doing this is 'The Incident'?". So if Jack threw the bomb down there and sunk the Island then that was clearly not "The Incident" we first heard Desmond talk about. So we still don't know what The Incident is... What sent them forward in time was either A) the drill, drilling into this "pocket" that unleashed some sort of energy and put them back in their proper time or B] the bomb unleashing whatever sort of energy was in this "pocket" that was being drilled into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Anyone else notice that Claire's ultrasound was dated one month later than the original Flight 815? I didn't catch it myself. Saw it on Lostpedia. I read on the Lostpedia forums that one of the production guys has confirmed that was an error. I don't think the bomb went off. Wouldn't it have killed everyone in the general vicinity? And since the imploded hatch was there when they flashed to 2007, someone had to have built it. Though I guess it didn't necessarily have to be Radzinsky... Really, I have no idea what's going on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcroach Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I rewatched the season 5 finale the other night. At one point, as Jack is going to throw the bomb into the hole, Miles says something interesting, along the lines of "what if Jack doing this is 'The Incident'?". So if Jack threw the bomb down there and sunk the Island then that was clearly not "The Incident" we first heard Desmond talk about. So we still don't know what The Incident is... I wouldn't be so sure..... I don't think the bomb went off. Wouldn't it have killed everyone in the general vicinity? And since the imploded hatch was there when they flashed to 2007, someone had to have built it. Though I guess it didn't necessarily have to be Radzinsky... Really, I have no idea what's going on. Yes, the bomb went off. It was not the incident. It sunk the island and Flight 815 landed safely at LAX, although the passengers on board were slightly different because their pre-2004 lives weren't influenced by the island. The bomb may or may not have gone off, but regardless, the actions of "The Incident" WERE the incident. The Dharma Initiative still built the Swan station. Desmond still came to the island and failed to push the button. Flight 815 still crashed, the survivors did live on the island, some left, the others flashed back to 1977 to set off the incident. Then they all ended up, some way or another, in 2007. Both of the above are true. Or maybe only one is true and we're just getting views into the other "world". So, here we are debating it and watching the show and the commercials and waiting until next week. It's good story telling. Apart from all the mythology stuff, the big question this session IMHO is: Which is true "What happened, happened" or "Nothing is irreversible." Hell, or both? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Rewatched the first two episodes. A few things stuck out.1) Jin and Sun aren't married.... Jacob visited them on their wedding day. COINCIDENCE?!2) Jack was nervous on the plane. Jacob visited him during one of his lowest moments in his life. Perhaps there's some sort of correlation there.3) Alt-Locke saying to alt-Jack "well how could they know where he is? They didn't lose your father, they just lost his body". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I can't take credit for noticing this one, I saw it on Lostpedia forums... but another difference is Desmond has a wedding band. Also, (and I DID notice this myself... ) there is no indication that anyone other than Jack saw Desmond on the plane. I think Des is doing some freaky flash stuff in BOTH timelines... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
u2roolz Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 There are 108 double stitches on a baseball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
u2roolz Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Some interesting ideas presented by the old D.C. Comics' character Hawkman. I knew of the character and what he looks like, but not of the following which eerily parallels Lost's Jacob & MIB. This is about Hawkman's nemesis. The cruel Egyptian priest Hath-Set first appeared in Flash Comics #1 (January 1940). He murdered Prince Khufu and Princess Chay-Ara with a cursed dagger forged from Nth Metal, resulting in a cycle of reincarnations for all three of them together. Over the centuries, he has been responsible for the couple's murder in many different incarnations, and during the World War II era, he was reincarnated as the evil Doctor Anton Hastor. Hawkman and Hawkgirl were reunited when facing Hastor and then, eventually, they managed to foil his plans—though of course, Hath-Set would try again over the years. In 1941, Hastor had kidnapped various prominent scientists and pooled their collective resources in order to build a flying mechanical eye airship, with weaponry capable of leveling whole cities. His plans for world conquest were foiled by Hawkman along with his colleagues of the All-Star Squadron. During the 1980s, when Infinity, Inc. took place, Hath-Set used the curse he'd put upon the Hawks to take control of their son Hector Hall, the Infinitor known as Silver Scarab, and with him attacked the team. Luckily, they managed to defeat the evil priest, but at the cost of Hector's life. Today, Hath-Set exists in a spiritual form, and has been able to take over the bodies and minds of his many descendants, most recently being a woman called Helene Astar, while Hawkman and Hawkgirl were travelling to the Himalayas to search for Speed Saunders. It was thought that Hath-Set had been reincarnated as Astar who died when attempting to kill the Hawks herself. But what really happened was that the priest possessed Astar and by letting her die, he succeeded in misleading the Hawks into thinking Hath-Set had also died for good.Hath-Set currently plots with the crooked businessman Kristopher Roderic to kill his archnemesis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 I was wondering if we would see Katey Sagal again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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