John Smith Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I think he does not want to release them because they don't match up with what he has been saying. Income is lower, income is sheltered in foreign investments/structures, contributions are not as great Ashe has said and to organizations that are not approved of by republicans. In other words they may expose him as a fraud. This won't dissuade the true believers but it might have an effect on the undecided. Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Aside from the horrible person that Trump is, his policy positions seem to be an exercise in free jazz rather than coherent statements. In recent interviews and speeches he contradicts himself and his policies. Honestly I don't know what his policies are. Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Hillary is going to destroy him in the debates. Link to post Share on other sites
Griddles Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hillary is going to destroy him in the debates. Probably, but it wont really matter. From Charles Blow today: “Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.”http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/16/opinion/trumps-asymmetric-warfare.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Roberts Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'd say it's actually a good rule of thumb to assume they're lying when considering any candidate during election season. Trump isn't going to build a wall, Sanders isn't going to everyone a free ride on the backs of the rich and Hillary isn't going to take on Wall Street.Yep. However, Sanders believes his lies and will fight for his agenda, whereas Trump and Clinton are just saying shit to win the prize at the talent show. Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor B Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Free college for everyone is far crazier and more unfeasible than building a wall.....Sanders's agenda is horrible. Venezuela North. Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Free college for everyone is far crazier and more unfeasible than building a wall.I received a free college education and free room and board for 4 years. Uncle Sam even threw in a nice pair of boots. Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor B Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hixter , I appreciate your posts. I also like your avatar. Long Live Rock...... Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Free college for everyone is far crazier and more unfeasible than building a wall.....Sanders's agenda is horrible. Venezuela North.Well it's more expensive than a wall, but might just have a few more benefits. As for countries that commit these public higher ed atrocities you can also look at Germany, France, Finland and Norway and then look into their scoring on the human development index. Not too scary. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Free college for everyone is far crazier and more unfeasible than building a wall.While I tend to agree that free college is generally unfeasible, it is not crazier or impractical than the wall. The wall is rooted in rasicism and xenophobia, and it's function goes against the central idea of our country. And if accomplished would do nothing. Whereas free education is rooted hope and betterment of our nation and if accomplished would have a lasting effect on our nation. Also other developed countries offer free college, no other country has built a wall to the extent that Trump is purposing. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yeah, that Venezuela comment was off the cuff, but it stuck in my academic craw. How can you be a wall apologist and make vague allusions to communist scaries? Remember that one famous wall in Berlin? Jingoist, draconian domestic policy aside Venezuela's biggest economic problems are rooted in "drill baby drill" short sightedness and shortages caused by hostile protectionist trade policies. You know who has echoed that kind of approach? "Make America Great Again" himself. Incidentally, for someone with that world view, when exactly was America great? Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Maybe Bernie can get Mexico to pay for free tuition in lieu of Trumps wall? Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor B Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Venezuela's problem are rooted in government takeover of industries and setting prices for goods. Great article by Bret Stephens in WSJ today. Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hell, I thought Trump supporters got a little rowdy. I think Bernies "Berners" are taking the cake! Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Roberts Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Free college for everyone is far crazier and more unfeasible than building a wall.....Sanders's agenda is horrible. Venezuela North. Bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Bullshit.But...but...he's a doctor. Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Roberts Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 But...but...he's a doctor.Oh shit! What was I thinking! Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor B Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Don't you know that Mexico is paying for the wall? Maybe Bernie can get Mexico to pay for college? El Chapo Scholarship program..... Seriously, who will get free tuition? US citizens? Undocumented? Who is paying for this? Who decides on what the tuition will be? Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Who is paying for this?As usual, the rich would pay a tremendous amount, the middle class would pay a hefty amount and the poor would pay little or nothing. And there still wouldn't be enough money. Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 If a "free college tuition" plan was ever enacted, it must include rigorous qualification requirements. The idea that everyone should go to college must be abandoned. Not everyone should go to college. Some won't be successful for academic reasons, others for motivational reasons, others for self-disciplinary reasons, and some will not succeed because college just isn't for them. When you are financing it yourself, sure, go ahead and give it a shot if you want, it's your money. But when the taxpayers are financing it, you need to show that you are not a risk and are likely to succeed. The tuition plan must also include vocational and technical certification programs, not just university degrees. Also, for profit "colleges", cannot be eligible. The institutions themselves must pass rigorous requirements to get the tax dollars. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Don't you know that Mexico is paying for the wall? Sarcasm doesn't always read. Do you mean it sincerely? Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Sorry, I realize that's kind of an insulting question for those of us who aren't out of our gourds. Just thought I'd double check where the sidelines were Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 As usual, the rich would pay a tremendous amount, the middle class would pay a hefty amount and the poor would pay little or nothing. And there still wouldn't be enough money.Yep, those poor underprivileged rich folk Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 It's like, when are the rich gonna catch a break in this country? If this radical agenda doesn't end soon they'll be trapped in the category of merely wealthy. Link to post Share on other sites
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