jw harding Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I've watched a few videos from Weir's current tour. Wish I could attend a show, think it would be fun. Puzzled that he continues to sing Garcia tunes, like Althea, Standing on the Moon, Ship of Fools, Peggy O. Think it would make sense to focus more on his catalog that fits with the Cowboy genre, like Jack Straw, Blackthroated Wind, etc. And gotta say Weir does not sound great on the guitar. Sometimes just sounds like he's banging out chords like someone who has never played a guitar before, not listening to the rest of the band. Typical Weir stuff I guess. And again, I think there will be some high points in the shows too. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Weir on Colbert last night. Really good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qnuA7UHTA4 Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Weir on Colbert last night. Really good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qnuA7UHTA4That was the first time I had seen a Colbert show (due to Weir). Both were very good. Everybody got a blue cowboy hat at his Cap bday show Sunday night, too. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 The webcast from the other night is online. Thought the first set sounded real good. Haven't got to the 2nd yet. https://youtu.be/UONmFuXXzN4 Link to post Share on other sites
dagwave Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 saw some of the cap show: felt more like a lullaby than a birthday and i love me some Weir(d). Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Really great show last night. Opened with Corrina, a tune I have always enjoyed. Also played Dylan's Most of the Time - which I was not expecting, a great version. That tune has always been one of my favorites from Dylan. The first time I saw Dylan, in 97, Ani DiFranco opened for him and she did a version of Most of the Time, then when Dylan came on that same night, he did his version - now I have Weir's - great, great tune. Already up on Archive. https://archive.org/details/weir2016-10-20.akg481 Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Corrina, a tune I have always enjoyed. I don't think I've ever heard or read those words before! Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yeah - I have always enjoyed the tune when I saw them live in the 90s - loved the beats, etc - no beats last night, just guitar. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Heard a few good, weird Dead versions of Corrina. It could lead to some interesting places. Not sure about Weir playing it solo though. Especially with the catalog he has to draw from. Um, Jack Straw, Music Never Stopped. Fuck, play Mexicali. Looks like a cool show though. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yeah - I have always enjoyed the tune when I saw them live in the 90s - loved the beats, etc - no beats last night, just guitar. I don't think I've ever heard or read those words before!Ha. I've had no shame in ever uttering similar words. I love the beat, the harmonies, and Garcia's guitar work can get downright nasty on it.Never understood the general distaste for the tune. It's pretty funky, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Oh no, my mistake. My eyes saw "Corrina" and my brain read "Victim." I take that back. I'm not a huge Corrina fan, but it did get places. Sorry, obviously didn't have enough caffeine yet when I posted that. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Well now geez I REALLY think "Victim" took off and became a very solid exploratory tune through its growth! Plus, it usually paired with "Foolish" which I loved from the get-go, studio album version aside. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yeah, Victim was great. Bob has plenty of terrible songs. That is not one of them. Gotta give Bob credit for trying to bring strange, heavier sounds to the band in later years, when Jerry was sticking to a pretty standard template. Days Between being the exception. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 I think Gerrit Graham wrote those songs with Bob. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I think Gerrit Graham wrote those songs with Bob.Yeah, I believe this is correct. The tune ("Victim") was, supposedly, inspired (by Weir, at least) by a Bela Bartok piece.... Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 He's in Used Cars (1980) among other things. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 He's in Used Cars (1980) among other things.The Gerrit Graham thing made me go back to find this cool article by him on the birth of the tune. Pretty cool read if you're into this kind of thing:http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/votc.html Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 I don't know any of those songs probably. I have that album on cassette - but I don't know if I ever listened to it. I must have at least once years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Well now geez I REALLY think "Victim" took off and became a very solid exploratory tune through its growth! Plus, it usually paired with "Foolish" which I loved from the get-go, studio album version aside.I love Victim! I'd say by the Fall of '89 it had really taken off and could get super weird. I love the ugliness of it - it might be about the most dissonant song they ever did. Definitely a later-era Crimson feel to those ascending steps. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I don't know any of those songs probably. I have that album on cassette - but I don't know if I ever listened to it. I must have at least once years ago.What other songs are you referring to? I think "Victim or the Crime" is the only tune the guy co-wrote the lyrics too that made it into GD repertoire. He also wrote/co-wrote lyrics to some Rat Dog tunes too ("Even So," I think and 1-2 others). Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 The songs on the Built To Last album. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Really great show last night. Opened with Corrina, a tune I have always enjoyed. Also played Dylan's Most of the Time - which I was not expecting, a great version. That tune has always been one of my favorites from Dylan. The first time I saw Dylan, in 97, Ani DiFranco opened for him and she did a version of Most of the Time, then when Dylan came on that same night, he did his version - now I have Weir's - great, great tune. Already up on Archive. https://archive.org/details/weir2016-10-20.akg481Holy hell that China Cat is an abomination. I didn't think it could be played worse than Jerry did in 95, but Weir never ceases to amaze. It's one of the great guitar lines in all music, just play something that sounds like it, or act like you've played a guitar before. Oh well, the Dead stopped giving a shit about it after 74, so no big whoop. Enjoy the cowboy and stripped down stuff. Things fall apart from He's Gone on, when they open it up and reveal the band hasn't quite meshed yet. The drummer sounds pretty good though. And enjoy Kimock's lap steel on Stella Blue (and other tunes), kinda had me thinking of Gilmour's outro on Higher Hopes. Better version of Mama Tried than the Dead ever played. Flaws aside, this band and project has potential, points to a new direction. Hope Weir tunes it up keeps it going rather than returning to the nostalgia trip of Dead & Co. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Tribune's review of the Chicago show, which I did not read before making my comments above: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-bob-weir-grateful-dead-review-ent-1022-20161021-story.html And Weir on CBS Saturday Sessions: http://www.jambase.com/article/bob-weir-appears-cbs-saturday-sessions Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Those clips played on Saturday Sessions were excellent. Really like the collection of new songs, and the instrumentation fits them well. Good for Bobby. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 The next Dave's Picks release announced: Boulder 12/9/81 http://www.jambase.com/article/grateful-dead-release-1981-show-daves-picks-volume-20 Link to post Share on other sites
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