Analogman Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 I noticed this in the comments: The story of Bear's incarceration is a murky one. The accepted history in all the Dead books is that he went into prison in July 1970 and served two years.Bear himself says (in the Taping Compendium interview): "The courts restricted my travel in February 1970 after the bust in New Orleans. They canceled my appeal bond in July 1970 and sent me to do my time. It crippled my appeal because I could not supervise the lawyers while I was locked up. I didn't get out until July 1972." In the Conversations with the Dead book he also says "they carted me off to the joint" in mid-1970: "In February they stopped me going on the road because we got busted in New Orleans. I had already been convicted and been sentenced and was awaiting my appeals. The Dead got busted and I was busted with them, and that sent a bad message to the judge, and he revoked my permission to travel." (p324) Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 I think I probably knew about this - but still it's a trip to read about it: GD/Cream March 11th 1968, Sacramento, California Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yes...I've said this before...but 17 September 1982 comprises one of the best second sets ever...including a very fast paced Touch > Women...the Women includes an obviously "coked" out Weir screamfest... Yeah - this show, the Touch is much better than the West L.A. -- great way to open up the 2nd set. The Throwing Stones was a wreck - god love 'em. Great show, thus far. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I think I probably knew about this - but still it's a trip to read about it: GD/Cream March 11th 1968, Sacramento, California I was into Cream moreso than The Dead around the time I just got out of HS (June 1981), and I've always considered them the first Rock "jamband". This was a nice read - nice find, Aman. Maybe a couple of factual errors - the July '68 Rancho Olompali tapes have to be dated wrong. The Dead were long gone from that idyllic spot by late Summer '66, but the blogger might be thinking of the Airplane House tape from Oct. '68. That's a seriously strange jam, but worthy of a listen (I have the cassette, it might be on Archive). Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 I guess Eric did not think much of those bands. Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Hey fanatics: which shows or releases (Dick's Picks, etc.) do you consider absolute must-haves? Like, "If it disappeared from my hard drive and I couldn't ever find a replacement, I'd be devastated." The reason I ask is because I recently had to completely replace my operating system, and am now tasked with going in and manually adding all my stuff back into iTunes. I just can't sort through all of it, especially since I have so many artists. I don't have the time to pull everything I can fit that's archived on my external hard drive. With the Dead, I put in a few essential studio albums, Europe '72, and a few random shows like 3/1/69, 7/18/72, etc. Problem with adding back shows is that some require labeling songs, and so on, and it's just a bitch. Whaddya think?This is a good resource for quickly seeing what has been released. Some of it is out of print, though. http://deaddisc.com/ I know you have clear opinions on what you like and don't, so you can probably eliminate yourself the stuff you are not interested in. Its such a personal preference, so a hard question to answer For me, the official releases I listen to over and over include: Dick's Picks, Vol. 4, 1996 : Fillmore East, 2/13-14/70Dick's Picks, Vol. 12, 1998 : Providence & Boston, 6/26 & 28/74Dick's Picks, Vol. 18, 2000 : Madison & Cedar Falls, 2/3 & 5/78Dick's Picks, Vol. 28, 2003 : Lincoln & Salt Lake City, 2/26 & 28/73 Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 1: Fall 1979Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 3: June 1974: Wall of Sound Dave's Picks Volume 7: Horton Field House, Illinois State, Normal, 4/24/78Dave's Picks Volume 11: Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72 Winterland June 1977: The Complete RecordingsFillmore West 1969: Compilation Go To Nassau, 1980Steppin' Out, England 1972Reckoning, acoustic 1980Sunshine Daydream the Springfield Creamery Benefit Veneta, Oregon August 27, 1972. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 This is a good resource for quickly seeing what has been released. Some of it is out of print, though. http://deaddisc.com/ I know you have clear opinions on what you like and don't, so you can probably eliminate yourself the stuff you are not interested in. Its such a personal preference, so a hard question to answer For me, the official releases I listen to over and over include: Dick's Picks, Vol. 4, 1996 : Fillmore East, 2/13-14/70Dick's Picks, Vol. 12, 1998 : Providence & Boston, 6/26 & 28/74Dick's Picks, Vol. 18, 2000 : Madison & Cedar Falls, 2/3 & 5/78Dick's Picks, Vol. 28, 2003 : Lincoln & Salt Lake City, 2/26 & 28/73 Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 1: Fall 1979Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 3: June 1974: Wall of Sound Dave's Picks Volume 7: Horton Field House, Illinois State, Normal, 4/24/78Dave's Picks Volume 11: Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72 Winterland June 1977: The Complete RecordingsFillmore West 1969: Compilation Go To Nassau, 1980Steppin' Out, England 1972Reckoning, acoustic 1980Sunshine Daydream the Springfield Creamery Benefit Veneta, Oregon August 27, 1972.That's a solid list, I wouldn't disagree with anything on there. Without looking at the discography, a few off the top of my head additions from my collection: Winterland '73 box set (I'm partial to '73), a great companion to the Winterland '77 boxDick's Picks, 1973 Boston Music HallGD Movie box setMay '77 box setDick's Pick from Columbus OH, Halloween 1971. I think its DP #2. A single disc, awesome showLadies and Gentlemen, the Fillmore East April '71 4 disc setThe Nassau Coliseum, Branford Marsalis spring 1990 show Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 That Ladies and Gentlemen release is still one of my favorite official releases. It's hard to believe it has been almost 16 years since it was released. That Dick's Picks is the first one I ever got. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 One from the Vault is pretty essential. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Thanks, Shug & worldrecordplayer. Good suggestions.I have about 400 folders of Dead files, and I guess only about 50 or so are official releases. Overwhelming amount of stuff. Listening to 5/7/70 now, another show I'd never heard, as it's overshadowed by the next night...another favorite. Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I had a huge backlog of downloaded live Dead stuff on my computer that needed to be labeled by hand, each track. It was a big job and I forced myself to stop downloading stuff until I got all the stuff I already had labeled. Whew! Just got it done a few weeks ago and that was a load off. I feel for ya. Now I get to download more shows, yeah! At least all the songs are labeled if you by the official releases that are still in print. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I had a huge backlog of downloaded live Dead stuff on my computer that needed to be labeled by hand, each track. It was a big job and I forced myself to stop downloading stuff until I got all the stuff I already had labeled. Whew! Just got it done a few weeks ago and that was a load off. I feel for ya. Now I get to download more shows, yeah! At least all the songs are labeled if you by the official releases that are still in print. Even some of the official releases are mislabeled in iTunes, or not labeled at all. It's a bit of a cluster.I appreciate you guys suggesting some of the Dick's and One from the Vault. I'd skipped right over those, with the exception of Harpur College.I've got about 40 shows in FLAC and a few in MP3 that I have yet to play. A bunch of them are from '69, which can get redundant, but I can't resist. That era is always interesting because sometimes Jerry actually still has some funny banter. Pig too. And the versions of Hard to Handle and Dark Star are great. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Road Trips: Vol 2, Number 3: June 1974: Wall of Sound I wasn't aware that 6/18/74 had been released as part of this compilation. Seems kind of strange they chopped the show up and only released one disc. Not sure I've listened to the other show on this comp, 6/16, but 6/18 makes a lot of best of lists, probably worth having the whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just announced, the July 1978 Betty Boards official box set release: http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/july-1978-complete-recordings?intcmp=home/carousel1Just announced, the July 1978 Betty Boards official box set release: http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/july-1978-complete-recordings?intcmp=home/carousel1I had those Red Rocks shows on cassette years ago, I always thought they were great, haven't heard the others in this box. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 I wonder if they had to pay - or someone actually gave them the reels. Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just announced, the July 1978 Betty Boards official box set release: http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/july-1978-complete-recordings?intcmp=home/carousel1I had those Red Rocks shows on cassette years ago, I always thought they were great, haven't heard the others in this box.7/8/78 is strong, especially the Estimated>Other One>Eyes. The outro jam on Estimated goes on for awhile into some interesting sounds. I've also not heard the other shows besides the Red Rocks nights. Some of those second sets are short. I think 1978 is the peak year for Estimated Prophet, Black Peter and Music Never Stopped and Good Lovin' without Pigpen and probably US Blues for folks that don't dislike that tune. Rolling Stone is reporting that they will also sell 7-8-78 by itself. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-grateful-deads-sublime-wharf-rat-from-first-ever-red-rocks-run-20160315 Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I think I've posted this before, but this particular '78 U.S. Blues from Duke is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS (the whole show is stupendous, really). If you haven't watched, it's a must see clip for many reasons I'll allow those who haven't seen it to discover on their own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdjlOPBBGXE Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 On that video page - down below, on the right - is my mystery girl from the GD movie. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I wonder if they had to pay - or someone actually gave them the reels. At about the 5 minute mark of Lemieux's Seaside Chat, he goes into an explanation of getting the original master reels back in the vault. They did a deal with the guy who had ownership of them, who was not Betty. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 I am guessing that must be the people talked about in that article Rob wrote a while back. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 On that video page - down below, on the right - is my mystery girl from the GD movie. Which girl/video are you talking about? That 78 set does look nice -- probably will pass, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 U.S. Blues from the GD movie - the girl in the orange/brown plaid top - has always intrigued me. She's in the thumbnail for the video. She pops up around 2:11 in the video. Link to post Share on other sites
The Inside of Outside Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I think I've posted this before, but this particular '78 U.S. Blues from Duke is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS (the whole show is stupendous, really). If you haven't watched, it's a must see clip for many reasons I'll allow those who haven't seen it to discover on their own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdjlOPBBGXEThe band expended more energy in that one song than I saw in a whole show in the mid-80s. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Made it up to 1987 so far in the 30 Trips set. Everyone knows the 9/18/87 MSG show, for good reason. Maybe the best show of the Brent era, or at least the second set? Even the Watchtower is exciting, and the Heaven's Door is engaging. Of course the Dew. Gotta be up there with the Warlocks and Branford shows. For someone who poo-poos Brent, this stuff is pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 On that video page - down below, on the right - is my mystery girl from the GD movie. I always wonder what's up with those people. You'd think they'd come out of the woodwork online or something. I assume some are Dead. It is sad Betty is not getting any money...even for using her name she should be paid something. Link to post Share on other sites
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