winterland121072 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Totally agree. One of last great shows / jams with Keith. His demise was a real drag. In my opinion, he wasn't the same after 1974. 1975 / 1976 he was ok but very sedate. 1977 he seemed much more percussive rhythmic than the improv rhythmic of 72/73/74. 1978 he was sloppy (drunk?) percussive rhythmic. 1978 he almost sounded like a drum. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Totally agree. One of last great shows / jams with Keith. His demise was a real drag. In my opinion, he wasn't the same after 1974. 1975 / 1976 he was ok but very sedate. 1977 he seemed much more percussive rhythmic than the improv rhythmic of 72/73/74. 1978 he was sloppy (drunk?) percussive rhythmic. 1978 he almost sounded like a drum.The final year I've noticed a lot of just mimicking Garcia's licks.....Lazy, uninspired, repetitive.I would be remiss if I didn't mention that 40 years ago yesterday was a REALLY hot set of music. It's one of the best of the last 6 weeks of the Keith & Donna Era. Yes, yes, I know. The Miracle > Shakedown opener. It's undeniably good. But I'm here to talk about the Playin into the Drums > Jam > Playin Reprise. 40+ minutes of Essential Dead. Following the lyrics Jerry goes right into some inspired extreme noodling, which goes on for nearly 15 minutes. Jerry doesn't want to stop! Eventually he does and The Devils immediately go with a Middle Eastern feel that reminds me of 12/30/78 with Hamza. Jerry and Bob dig it and come back out for a jam that is like a hash den in Morocco or somewhere similar. Finally the Reprise comes and it's good and celebratory. It always amazes me to read about how extremely dysfunctional and unhappy the band was at this time - you sure wouldn't know it from this example. This is the consecrated fucking noodling of the gods. https://archive.org/details/gd1979-01-15.111592.mtx.chappell.sb32.flac16/gd79-01-15s2t06.flacWhere there's a hot PITB, there will be mountain bed. Gottta re-check this out after work..... Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Latvala's notes indicate the jam into Playin' reprise was one of his favorites. Some nice noodling in the Terrapin too. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1/15/79 is also being discussed over on the Hoffman board - someone posted Dick L's notes on the show. "Brain Frying" is an apt and great description. (Jesse Jarnow posted the notebook page in his twitter feed). I am sure I mentioned this before, but one of the highlights for me seeing the Grateful Dead exhibit when it was at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was seeing the original pages of Dick's notes. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 I am surprised someone has not transcribed those notebooks and released the whole thing as a book. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I am surprised someone has not transcribed those notebooks and released the whole thing as a book. Would probably buy a copy, but prefer Latvala's handwritten notes. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1/15/79 is also being discussed over on the Hoffman board - someone posted Dick L's notes on the show. "Brain Frying" is an apt and great description. (Jesse Jarnow posted the notebook page in his twitter feed). I am sure I mentioned this before, but one of the highlights for me seeing the Grateful Dead exhibit when it was at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was seeing the original pages of Dick's notes. Note the " ' Jack-A-Rogue' ." Reminds me of when I bought Reckoning on cassette when it came out and "Rosalie McFall" was written as "Rosalie No Fall." Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Where there's a hot PITB, there will be mountain bed. Gottta re-check this out after work..... Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 10/19/74. The penultimate show before the retirement. Probably better than the next night. Nice Eyes>China Doll in first set. Set two has a great run thru a number of standard tunes, starting with Big RxR Blues that finds Jerry really messing with the intro - very exciting! Strong takes on Race is On, Tomorrow is Forever, and Mexicali follow. There's just a little bit something to each version, and you can tell the band is on. Dire Wolf follows, and feels a bit flat. Then Sugar Mags starts a great jam suite, that includes the Truckin intro before they drop into Caution and a prolonged jam, before returning to Truckin proper. Wowsers! Doesn't sound like a band ready to hang it up. Strong take on Black Peter prior to a return to Sunshine Daydream. Recommended listening fo sho. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 10/19/74. The penultimate show before the retirement. Probably better than the next night. Nice Eyes>China Doll in first set. Set two has a great run thru a number of standard tunes, starting with Big RxR Blues that finds Jerry really messing with the intro - very exciting! Strong takes on Race is On, Tomorrow is Forever, and Mexicali follow. There's just a little bit something to each version, and you can tell the band is on. Dire Wolf follows, and feels a bit flat. Then Sugar Mags starts a great jam suite, that includes the Truckin intro before they drop into Caution and a prolonged jam, before returning to Truckin proper. Wowsers! Doesn't sound like a band ready to hang it up. Strong take on Black Peter prior to a return to Sunshine Daydream. Recommended listening fo sho.Bunch of naked twanging from Weir on that missed voacl Big RR opening, ha. Do you skip the Phil and Ned (for sanity's sake)? Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I couldn't tell it was due to a missed vocal cue, but dug it. I always try to listen to minute or two of the Seastones stuff, with no payoff yet. Maybe it was cool coming from the Wall, but doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I couldn't tell it was due to a missed vocal cue, but dug it. I always try to listen to minute or two of the Seastones stuff, with no payoff yet. Maybe it was cool coming from the Wall, but doubt it. Yeah, it just sounded liked he missed the intro vocals to me (which is fantastic, regardless). Fun shit. That Seastones stuff takes some fortitude to bull through. God bless the effort and experimentation, but, uhhh...... Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 My very favorite set of the 5 nights is set 2 from the middle night (10/18). Phil & Ned > Jam > Dark Star > Dew. Sadly enough, that was the last time they ever did Star > Dew. Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10.19.74 was really strong. Probably the best Mexicali I've heard... The Sugar Mag was really strong. of that run...10.16 and 10.19 were the highlights in my opinion... Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Yes, been listening to a lot of 73 - 74 lately, so pretty burnt out on Mexicali (and Promised Land, El Paso, Beat It, Around, JBG) but that one really jumped out. Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Today and probably for next few days ____ 12 October 1984....Augusta Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Today and probably for next few days ____ 12 October 1984....AugustaNice show! (you probably already know that video is available, but in case you don't...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cgc7Srb_Jw). I was at the Worcester show a few nights earlier with a nice Terrapin to open 2nd set. Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Caught Fire Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Today and probably for next few days ____ 12 October 1984....AugustaDid the whole fall tour and that Augusta show easily the best of the tour. On the rail right in front of Jerry both nights. Ah, memories... Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Did the whole fall tour and that Augusta show easily the best of the tour. On the rail right in front of Jerry both nights. Ah, memories...DUDE! Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Wow...nice... I never got that close. Milwaukee Mecca 4/15/1989 i was about 10th row... Did the whole fall tour and that Augusta show easily the best of the tour. On the rail right in front of Jerry both nights. Ah, memories... Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Caught Fire Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Wow...nice... I never got that close. Milwaukee Mecca 4/15/1989 i was about 10th row...I think I was lucky enough to be on rail or first 5 rows about 75-100 times out of the 209 dead shows I saw. I will have to count. An obsession but it's pleasing and I seem to be repeating that approach with Wilco! Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Would probably buy a copy, but prefer Latvala's handwritten notes. It will probably happen some day. Something I have not yet explored: The Dead's 'Elastic Ping-Pong Jam' During Dark Star, 1973 Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Today and probably for next few days ____ 12 October 1984....AugustaOne of the favorite shows that I attended. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The 2/26/77 Swing show that's being presented as Dave's Picks 29 is now up for sale. Still available even after a few hours, so it looks like upping the # to 20K copies is relieving some of the typical non-subscriber woes.https://store.dead.net/dave-s-picks-vol-29-1.html Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 It sounds like that may be one of those tapes that group of lawyers got back to the band. Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts