ms. yvon Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Is this a sign of a sure-fire sell out band?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kufVTRshQUU Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 We got cheated out of the last who knows how many years of Vincent Van Gogh's future work because NO ONE BOUGHT HIS ART. His letters etc. point to it pretty clearly. If he could have sold some to the VW of his day (maybe the largest buggy maker in Paris) things might have turned out differently. Also, I am happy to take unclepunk's place in front of the GA line. Good riddance! I get your point, but it sort of suggests that the members of Wilco were living in abject poverty prior to inking this deal, when, in fact, as far as 99.9% of bands go, Wilco was already in the big leagues Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ChooChooCharlie Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Is this a sign of a sure-fire sell out band?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kufVTRshQUUShuckOwens is a visionary Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I get your point, but it sort of suggests that the members of Wilco were living in abject poverty prior to inking this deal, when, in fact, as far as 99.9% of bands go, Wilco was already in the big leagues Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 When are the ads shown? Is it from 10 pm and later on weeknights when the under-30 yr. old crowd is awake? I haven't seen one yet.Besides an online search, I haven't seen the ads, either. I guess I don't watch enough TV. You know, for those of us who share jnickerson's dislike for overcommercialization, it's possible to more or less relegate the influence of that culture to the margins of our lives--frankly, I find that rather easy to do, which might explain why I also find it easy to separate Wilco's artistic moves from its business moves. If a song appears in an ad, there are no lingering connotations for me. (For those that experience the negative connotations and can't help but allow that to forever alter how they hear the song, I sympathize. That doesn Link to post Share on other sites
FixedBayonet Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Hunh? I ordered a cheeseburger. Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 i would like to see a poll on who we think voted that they hate wilco. I think that's only fair. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 How much did each member of Wilco make last year? Enough to avoid having to work a boring desk job? More than 99.9% of the worlds population? I don Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 ... (everything you said above) ... Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 No. God, no. Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Genevieve Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 That sums it up for me. Sir/Madam, I regret to inform you that your avatar violates Ebert's Law. Where's the Internet Police when you need them? Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Enough to avoid having to work a boring desk job? More than 99.9% of the worlds population? I don Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Wait and so and but, what if that commercial features Wilco? That has nothing to do with it. Thats a stupid response to an intelligent, well thought out post. Good job. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 No, but we need more "Open Letters to Wilco." You know, so Jeff can know who the true fans are. Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 If a work has genuine artistic power, then it also has the power to transcend the occasional misuse related to the complex vagaries associated with the long history of art commingling with commerce. It has the power to survive compromises of its purest state, both big and small. I guess what that means is, I'm not worried about the VW ads because I believe, perhaps idealistically, in the power of art, especially its power to matter and its power to endure.Yeah. That's it for me too. I trust the power of art to transcend the morass. You finished my thought. In all of this debate, trust is the word that kept coming up for me. But I couldn't get it right exactly. It wasn't about trust in "Wilco" or "Tweedy" or "Volkswagon". It was trust in the process. Trust in the power of art to move me and sometimes even change me. The impetus of the creative urge is pure. The activity of creation is pretty pure. It's the dissemination that can be a bit tricky. Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Vote yes or no or one of the other two. Must you continue to talk in public about fighting your addiction? edit: I apologize, I forgot to put that in "open letter" format... [open letter] Must you continue to talk in public about fighting your addiction? [/open letter] Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Is this a sign of a sure-fire sell out band?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kufVTRshQUUHa! that's funny. After I laughed so hard at your post that I had tears squirting out my eyes, I checked your 'Space" and looked at that video. And laughed some more. You have some interesting film in there. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 That has nothing to do with it. Thats a stupid response to an intelligent, well thought out post. Good job. I was being facetious, Earl. You of all people should understand facetious. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I was being facetious, Earl. You of all people should understand facetious. Either way, why even bother? Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Either way, why even bother? One could say the same thing about many of your very own, smart ass responses to other posters posts, Earl. So serious all of a sudden. Beltmann made some gracious comments, I was just adding some levity. I'll pm you in the future, to like, seek your approval, Earl. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 One could say the same thing about many of your very own, smart ass responses to other posters posts, Earl. So serious all of a sudden. Beltmann made some gracious comments, I was just adding some levity. I'll pm you in the future, to like, seek your approval, Earl. I think I've made it abundantly clear that I have no real opinions on anything, so all I can do is make smart ass comments. At least I didn't come storming onto the board on my high horse making my opinion known as fact. You are a "no nonsense" guy. I am an "all nonsense" guy. Thus I'm allowed to do it. Duh. Also, I've noticed this seems to be your schtick. You've ignored numerous serious posts and questions by intelligent posters who have made great points, and then you respond to clowns like me. Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Mr. Wadddddde Boggs. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 You guys are cute. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 In all honesty, I don't give a crap. But stop taking me seriously, man. I'm full of shit. Link to post Share on other sites
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