Three dollars and 63 cents Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Ratdog's spring tour is coming through my neck of the woods. I think I'll go check them out. It's been six or seven years since I've seen them. Link to post Share on other sites
IcculusDC Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 One of my favorite Help > Slip > Franks ever. I'm not really a rabid fan of '77 past this show (Fall). I really like the pinched sound Jerry got post-Egypt better. Even not being a fan of 77 have you heard the 2nd set Sugaree from 5.3.77---WOW! Unbelievable version. The jam goes to another level that this song rarely ever was taken by the band. Ganz played an unrealeased soundboard from this show last Saturday on the Marathon and it was great. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I don't know I'm not a big fan of 73 I guess but maybe i haven't heard the right show yet.If you have not hear the 12/2 Boston it has the best brain-fry/meltdown I've ever heard. Phil conjures up screaming pterodactyls from his bass, I kid you not. Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Happy Anniversary 2/13/70.My favorite Dark Star ever ... Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Ratdog's spring tour is coming through my neck of the woods. I think I'll go check them out. It's been six or seven years since I've seen them. I'm glad Karan's well, but no Kimock- From GDTSTOO:"First of all we are so pleased to be able to tell you thatMark Karan, RatDog's guitar player got the 'all clear' fromhis doctors and will be able to join the band for the spring tour.Go to rat-dog.com and click on 'news' for more of that story." Link to post Share on other sites
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Analogman Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Grateful Dead Listening Guide - Helping new and old-comers navigate through listening choices in the sea of Grateful Dead shows available on and off line. now deadlistening.com Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 now deadlistening.comThat is an awesome looking site. Thanks for the link. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Bill Cutler to put out album with original tracks featuring Garcia, Weir, Jorma, David Nelson, and a few others:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/janet-ritz/j...ma_b_84199.html Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Must have been some serious legal issues going on with that release. Link to post Share on other sites
pfcidb Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 summer 74 and may 77 are my favorites Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 Like last week, we figured we'd focus on one city in this week's Taper's Section. Like our focus-on-Rochester last week, we've selected an equally prolific city from which to draw loads of interesting Grateful Dead music: Hartford, Connecticut. Our earliest music today is from 1974, specifically from the massive show on 7/31/74 at Dillon Stadium in Hartford. Including the Seastones set, this is one of the longest Grateful Dead shows on record. A couple of days after this show, on August 2, the Grateful Dead were scheduled to play Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City, but that concert was rained out and made up on August 6. From Hartford on 7/31/74, we have this excellent Truckin'>Jam>Wharf Rat . Dick's notes on his tapes of this concert state during the jam Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 15 years ago today: Oakland Coliseum Arena, Oakland CA I: Cold Rain, Wang Dang Doodle, Loser, Memphis Blues Again, Broken Arrow, Way To Go, Johnny B. Goode II: Aiko, Corrina, Lazy River Road > Playin' > Drums > Space** > Other One* > Stella Blue* > Lovelight* E:Brokedown* *with Ornette Coleman ** also with Graham Wiggins on didgeridoo Ornette Coleman opened. Jerry played on the last song of his set. First "Broken Arrow". Mardi Gras Parade during "Aiko". From Playin' on this obviously gets very interesting. The jam from Playin' into the drums is very odd and has some "power rushes". Coleman is right at home during space. Worth checking out if you're an Ornette fan. Link to post Share on other sites
laurie Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I stopped seeing them around 1985-86 because I thought the scene was getting a little creepy. That and the fact that I came home one day and my roommate was playing Husker Du's Flip Your Wig. Blew my socks off ... Hey - I (Rick from Boston) stopped seeing them July 4th Dylan and the Dead when fans crashed the field and we were almost crushed. The tude had defintely changed - this is why i like wilco - serious musicians, not so much with the serious drugs. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Hey - I (Rick from Boston) stopped seeing them July 4th Dylan and the Dead when fans crashed the field and we were almost crushed. The tude had defintely changed - this is why i like wilco - serious musicians, not so much with the serious drugs.Not for nothing but the Dead were certainly "serious musicians" as well. I'm not sure what band-member drug usage/non-usage has to do with it. I can understand not wanting to hit shows (I guess) because of some bone-heads in the crowd though. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Not for nothing but the Dead were certainly "serious musicians" as well. I'm not sure what band-member drug usage/non-usage has to do with it. I can understand not wanting to hit shows (I guess) because of some bone-heads in the crowd though.Yeah. That's one thing I have now fully realized in this, my latest Dead phase. These dudes could flat-out rip. Link to post Share on other sites
laurie Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Not for nothing but the Dead were certainly "serious musicians" as well. I'm not sure what band-member drug usage/non-usage has to do with it. I can understand not wanting to hit shows (I guess) because of some bone-heads in the crowd though. Referring to the level of CROWD drug use - leading to a general "bone head" atmosphere v one or two bone heads Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yeah. That's one thing I have now fully realized in this, my latest Dead phase. These dudes could flat-out rip.Absolutely. Most people never get past the 'phenomenon' with the fans and all that. If you can expose someone to the music without telling them the name of the band (with all of its preconceived notions) quite often they will appreciate what they're hearing. Not always though. It can be pretty dense stuff at times. I think the media didn't help things. Wherever the band played (esp. the last 15 years) without fail the local newspapers, TV etc stories would always lead with that percentage of fans that looked to have been stuck in a sort of Haight-Ashbury diorama. So much easier than actually talking about the music itself. 12 years later the band is only now starting to get the respect that I think is well-deserved. Link to post Share on other sites
jc4prez Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Absolutely. Most people never get past the 'phenomenon' with the fans and all that. If you can expose someone to the music without telling them the name of the band (with all of its preconceived notions) quite often they will appreciate what they're hearing. Not always though. It can be pretty dense stuff at times. I think the media didn't help things. Wherever the band played (esp. the last 15 years) without fail the local newspapers, TV etc stories would always lead with that percentage of fans that looked to have been stuck in a sort of Haight-Ashbury diorama. So much easier than actually talking about the music itself. 12 years later the band is only now starting to get the respect that I think is well-deserved. Very true. I don't think you could make an argument about their musical capabilities. Also that show with Ornette is awesome! I LOVE the space, it sounds as if they are battling it out. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Another anniversary today. 39 years ago (damn it's hard to comprehend next year will be 40 years) at the Fillmore West the most perfectly realized version of Dark Star ever played. It might not be my favorite but it's just a seamless version. All who have the Fillmore Run (via box set, cds or cassettes) should bust these things out for the next 4 days. I know I will! Link to post Share on other sites
darkstar Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Another anniversary today. 39 years ago (damn it's hard to comprehend next year will be 40 years) at the Fillmore West the most perfectly realized version of Dark Star ever played. It might not be my favorite but it's just a seamless version. All who have the Fillmore Run (via box set, cds or cassettes) should bust these things out for the next 4 days. I know I will! Hell Yeah!!!!! My favorite period. Primal Dead at it's best. I have always loved that Darkstar, (and all Darkstars) and when I got to hear it in it's full transition from Mountains Of The Moon into DS...yikes....as far as I'm concerned it is my first among equals of Darkstars. Oddly enough it wasn't the first one I ever heard, I had been exposed to some seriously trippy 72 Darkstars before I ever got my lysergic hands on Live Dead. I would have loved to have seen the boys in this time period (but I was only 3 back in 69) ah well....I did get to see 'em in 78 ( recorded for all time as DP25!) and then throughout the 80's and early 90's so.... Thats why I'm glad I'm around to see and appreciate Wilco these days. I think we are witnessing a band at it's absolute peak. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hell Yeah!!!!! My favorite period. Primal Dead at it's best. I have always loved that Darkstar, (and all Darkstars) and when I got to hear it in it's full transition from Mountains Of The Moon into DS...yikes....as far as I'm concerned it is my first among equals of Darkstars. Oddly enough it wasn't the first one I ever heard, I had been exposed to some seriously trippy 72 Darkstars before I ever got my lysergic hands on Live Dead. I would have loved to have seen the boys in this time period (but I was only 3 back in 69) ah well....I did get to see 'em in 78 ( recorded for all time as DP25!) and then throughout the 80's and early 90's so.... Thats why I'm glad I'm around to see and appreciate Wilco these days. I think we are witnessing a band at it's absolute peak.1. You saw the Dead when you were 12? Faaar out.2. I agree with you about Wilco. The residency performances are head and shoulders better than the performances on Kicking Television, which were pretty good. A shame they didn't wait a few years to let this lineup season a bit before putting out a live album. Link to post Share on other sites
darkstar Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 1. You saw the Dead when you were 12? Faaar out.2. I agree with you about Wilco. The residency performances are head and shoulders better than the performances on Kicking Television, which were pretty good. A shame they didn't wait a few years to let this lineup season a bit before putting out a live album. actually I was 11....didn't turn 12 until October of that year!!!!! It was quite a feat, my Dad was a middle school pricipal and he damn well knew what that scene was all about, my friends big brother took us....to this day I'm still amazed my rock solid conservative dad let me go......go figure......I did wait a few years before I started sampling the chemicals though Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 actually I was 11....didn't turn 12 until October of that year!!!!! It was quite a feat, my Dad was a middle school pricipal and he damn well knew what that scene was all about, my friends big brother took us....to this day I'm still amazed my rock solid conservative dad let me go......go figure......I did wait a few years before I started sampling the chemicals though Have you ever heard the story about that show (it is 5/11/78 Springfield, right)? Crazy night indeed! Link to post Share on other sites
darkstar Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Have you ever heard the story about that show (it is 5/11/78 Springfield, right)? Crazy night indeed! Yep 5-11-78. Oh yeah, the stories are true....I wasn't really in to them as much as I would be at later points (hey I was 11! and it was the first rock concert I ever went to), but even my naive 11 year old self knew that the guys were....ah....enhanced to some extent. Allegedly the story goes they were on mescaline. I remeber people going nuts during the entire gig and though I didn't know why I knew it was something good ( when Weir came out with the gorilla mask I was like what......?)...Obviously this show started my life long love of the boys...I was lucky that particular was my first. I remeber the next time I saw them....memory is foggy but I know it was in 1981 I was like hmmmm this wasn't like the last time. I could never find a good tape of this show and pretty much gave up until dp25 came out. I was stoked (plus I got the cool 25 so far T shirt with it). Link to post Share on other sites
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