Elixir Sue Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 The last paragraph was lifted from Obama's website. Feel free to steal this and use it to combat the crazies in your own family.I wanted to resurrect this thread to thank you, Eric, for providing a succinct and eloquent template to respond to these stupid emails. I just sent a very similar version to every email address listed in the forward I received today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 There was a story in the NY Times Sunday magazine a couple of weeks ago which discussed this e-mail. They referenced a study where older people were shown a series of statements about health-related issues, and were then told clearly whether the statements were true or false. Some of the false statements were shown multiple times, each time clearly stating that this claim was FALSE. Afterwards, they asked these people to look at some statements, and say whether they thought the statements were true or false. The statements which had been shown the most often were the most likely to be believed to be true by the participants, despite having been told repeatedly that the statements were false (this effect was less prevalent in younger test subjects). The researchers said that what seemed to be happening was that people get a thing stuck in their head, the more often it's repeated to them, and that after a while all they can remember is that they've heard that somewhere, from more than one source, and that therefore, it's probably true. And unfortunately, the same will likely be true for some people who have received this e-mail. Unless a strong rebuttal goes viral in the same way that the original has, there will still be some people who, despite having been shown solid evidence that it is not true, will go to the polls with the phrase "Obama is a Muslim" stuck in their heads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 A few more useful links: Patriotism and FaithObama at Snopes.comDoes This Make George H. Bush Unpatriotic?Sliming Obama, at Factcheck.orgObama and the Patriot Police, at the Washington PostDefending the Facts on Obama's Faith, by evangelist Jim WallisVideo of Obama Speech on His Faith [39 min]Barack Obama: On My Faith and My Church Speech: A More Perfect UnionObama Speech In Full: A More Perfect UnionA Thinking Man's Speech [by Peggy Noonan, conservative]Initial Reaction [by conservative Andrew Sullivan]Charles Murray at the National Review Defends Obama's Speech Jeremiah WrightThe Wright Stuff: Videos the MSM Won't Show YouMeet the (White) Man Who Inspired Wright's SermonObama, Politics and the PulpitMike Huckabee Defends Jeremiah WrightWright In Context, by conservative Andrew SullivanThe Wright Stuff, by Andrew SullivanWhen My Father Said The Same Things as Wright, He Was a Republican HeroThe Wright Rage, by E.J. Dionne, Jr.Obama's Pastor, at Jim Buie's BlogHypocrisy and the Media The Smear MachineThe Media Repeats Stream of Lies About ObamaSmearing ObamaBill Kristol Amplifies Obama SmearThe New Right Wing Smear Machine If I get a chance, I'll add more later... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 A few more useful links: The Wright Stuff: Videos the MSM Won't Show YouDoes This Make George H. Bush Unpatriotic?A Thinking Man's Speech [by Peggy Noonan, conservative]Obama at Snopes.comMeet the (White) Man Who Inspired Wright's SermonMike Huckabee Defends Jeremiah WrightCharles Murray at the National Review Defends Obama's SpeechWright In Context, by conservative Andrew SullivanWhen My Father Said The Same Things as Wright, He Was a Republican Hero If I get a chance, I'll add more later...Thanks Eric! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcroach Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Nice job Eric. Here's a just my .02: MN Rep. Kieth Ellison is a Muslim, and he did place his hand on the Koran when being sworn in. He's also a great guy....I wish he was my congressman, not the nutcase I do have. I don't have much problem with either of my Senators, but you can have Rep. Dan Burton. Indiana needs to get rid of the nutcase. And it wasn't just any copy of the Koran, it was Thomas Jefferson's personal copy of the Koran! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7010300075.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I don't have much problem with either of my Senators, but you can have Rep. Dan Burton. Indiana needs to get rid of the nutcase. And it wasn't just any copy of the Koran, it was Thomas Jefferson's personal copy of the Koran! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7010300075.htmlYeah, Burton is scum. He's not my Rep though. I have the even more sickening Mike Pence. And Mr. Rain, that cartoon was something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woman at the bar Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 There was a story in the NY Times Sunday magazine a couple of weeks ago which discussed this e-mail. They referenced a study where older people were shown a series of statements about health-related issues, and were then told clearly whether the statements were true or false. Some of the false statements were shown multiple times, each time clearly stating that this claim was FALSE. Afterwards, they asked these people to look at some statements, and say whether they thought the statements were true or false. The statements which had been shown the most often were the most likely to be believed to be true by the participants, despite having been told repeatedly that the statements were false (this effect was less prevalent in younger test subjects). The researchers said that what seemed to be happening was that people get a thing stuck in their head, the more often it's repeated to them, and that after a while all they can remember is that they've heard that somewhere, from more than one source, and that therefore, it's probably true. And unfortunately, the same will likely be true for some people who have received this e-mail. Unless a strong rebuttal goes viral in the same way that the original has, there will still be some people who, despite having been shown solid evidence that it is not true, will go to the polls with the phrase "Obama is a Muslim" stuck in their heads. how awful to know that political teams then take this right into guerrilla marketing... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 http://isbarackobamamuslim.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cousin Tupelo Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 No. You. Don't. I wish Canadian politics was as interesting as our neighbours down south. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cousin Tupelo Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 He sent *me* and e-mail offering me a share of his US$37,000,000 if I sent him my bank account number to his financial advisor. So I've got that going for me, which is nice ... Dude! You don't understand! I read it online. Barack Obama stole this one guy's kidney and left him in a tub full of ice with a phone and a note that he'd better call 911 immediately. See... call 911... 9/11... kidneys are shaped a bit like a crescent moon... coincidence? I think not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cousin Tupelo Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I fortunately haven't been subjected to one of these e-mails. But any doubt about the hopelessness against such political lies need only look back over the past eight years. At least Scott McClelland has come over from the dark side. I'm sure most people here have received one of the chain emails claiming Obama is a Muslim or jihadist. I keep getting them, and they usually have been forwarded to me by the right-wing nutjobs in my own family. I'm fed up, and not just because I support Obama. Tonight I "replied to all" with the following: The last paragraph was lifted from Obama's website. Feel free to steal this and use it to combat the crazies in your own family. Okay, venting over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I wish I had a redneck relative who would send me these things. I always hear about these right wing nut job emails but I never get to see them One of the most disturbing things I've seen (I give em credit from the creativity) is a picture of obama dressed like Mr. T saying "Gimme Yo Change" and Obama O8 is written in an Arabic font. Also, along with Mr. t's gold chains, he has a necklace with the Obama logo but it's modified to look like a Muslim crescent moon. See rightwingstuff.com for more moronic in(s)anity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 So is he like a taoist or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Let's see how the media and the republicans run with this one... http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74635 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I love these stories, and how the people who are usually the most concerned with Obama Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Obama is allowed to accuse the mccain camp of spreading the muslim stuff, but people can't then turn around and accuse his people of spreading the early Palin daughter rumors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Obama is allowed to accuse the mccain camp of spreading the muslim stuff, but people can't then turn around and accuse his people of spreading the early Palin daughter rumors.i don't know who started what, and you probably don't either, but what we're left with is: the palin rumors were stopped cold within a day or two. the obama rumors have continued for months and months, and months. i'd say one side has a much more valid grievance than the other. have some perspective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 If it turns out that Obama is a 'freedom hater', this will change my vote. I'm keeping an eye on my inbox to solidify this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 i don't know who started what, and you probably don't either, but what we're left with is: the palin rumors were stopped cold within a day or two. the obama rumors have continued for months and months, and months. i'd say one side has a much more valid grievance than the other. have some perspective. Well, it's probably because people legitimately worry that he might be a Muslim. That might be why they persist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Well, it's probably because people legitimately worry that he might be a Muslim. That might be why they persist.some (ignorant) people do worry about it, which is why his republican adversaries love to keep it going -- fearmongering is all it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 What constitutes legitimate worry? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Can we just vote already? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 some (ignorant) people do worry about it, which is why his republican adversaries love to keep it going -- fearmongering is all it is.So Obama is allowed to accuse McCain's camp of doing this even though he denies it, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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