poppydawn Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Somehow, I get the feeling this sort of response would follow even if they were asked and then went on to accept a gig to play the Republican National Convention. It's their careers and their lives. They can do with it what they want. I don't have to agree with every aspect of everything they do. I like them for their music, not their politics. Link to post Share on other sites
mastershake Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I would bet that you are in the minority with your answer. As far as wanting them to break in the mainstream, it won't happen. There music isn't mainstream. That you have friends that you expose to Wilco but still don't like them says volumes about your friends. Wanting to be on SNL is fine. No gripes. Canceling, again excuse me, postponing, a sold out show with 5 days notice is wrong from my end of the telescope.i think my friends can be grouped in the majority of music listeners in america. the majority listens to only what is popular on the radio. while you'll never hear wilco at a dance club, i remain optimistic that they can break through the mainstream. they'll have to write a different album than sky blue sky thats for sure, but there was a time when challenging, artistic, and experimental music ruled the chart. it was in the days of the beatles and the stones and dylan, and it could happen again. not that wilco is the chosen one or anything, but they deserve a break every now and then. i personally wish all this media exposure would have happened with a ghost is born instead of sky blue sky... a ghost is born had much more commercial viability than it's followup. i think there is a lot of risk that people will take one listen to side with the seeds or impossible germany and write it off as dad rock. but that topic has been discussed ad nauseum. Link to post Share on other sites
markosis Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I like Wilco Link to post Share on other sites
j4lackey Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 They are playing fucking SNL so my friends and family will finally stop saying "Who's Wilco". And Ellen Page is a perfect match. I can understand being upset, and I sympathize with those who have to reschedule, but if that is the biggest problem in your life, you are doing well. All the sellout noise is a bit too dramatic. Please. Link to post Share on other sites
badu2fan Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I hear John McCAin wants them to play for him instead of Nashville. Or maybe Obama needs them Saturday night instead of SNL.It is nothing but bullshit to cancel a sold out gig for a live TV appearance.SEll out or what ever First rule of show biz is the show must go on.... SOmewhere that doesn't mean the same thing anymore. I been canceled on before due to illness or bad weather or a show that didnt sell enought but not a sold out show the night before a TV appearance. Most bands would have made it work. SNL could have had the rehersal early friday and then they fly down to charleston for gig and fly back to NYC and in a hotel by 2am. They could have equipment flown and use rented pa system in NYC. I believe the band would have saved grace by making an announcement directly on the web site. Even if it was written by a pr firm but at least hey I m sorry but it is worth the exposure etc. So again I lose a little respect for the aura that Jeff alludes too.....I heard Jeff mention the grammys in one of the CHicago shows so I do believe he is on a PR roll and wanting all the attention they can garner at the expense of fans that truely support him.There really should be some type of consumer protection for crap like this. Plane tickets hotel reservations lots of up front expenses for 100's of people.Hell maybe sue SNL for screwing up my life for the week.Big man wins little man pays......all the students that had tickets arent there in the summer just lot of folks let down. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The show is going on, jackass. It's just not going on in Charleston. Link to post Share on other sites
H.Stone Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The show is going on, jackass. It's just not going on in Charleston. Enjoying the IPAs, are you? Link to post Share on other sites
H.Stone Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 aura that Jeff alludes too..... What aura is this, exactly? I heard Jeff mention the grammys in one of the CHicago shows so I do believe he is on a PR roll and wanting all the attention they can garner at the expense of fans that truely support him. Yes, quite the PR roll. He mentions their grammy nomination on the first night of sold-out-in-record-time residency run in a theatre packed with some of the band's most adoring fans. Aside from the people in the room who already paid $40+ to be there, who else heard what you call his "PR roll"? Fans who seek out and download the shows? If that's his attempt to get all the attention he can garner, he sucks at it. He should've saved it for the XRT broadcast. Link to post Share on other sites
poppydawn Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I hear John McCAin wants them to play for him instead of Nashville. Or maybe Obama needs them Saturday night instead of SNL.It is nothing but bullshit to cancel a sold out gig for a live TV appearance.SEll out or what ever First rule of show biz is the show must go on.... SOmewhere that doesn't mean the same thing anymore. I been canceled on before due to illness or bad weather or a show that didnt sell enought but not a sold out show the night before a TV appearance. Most bands would have made it work. SNL could have had the rehersal early friday and then they fly down to charleston for gig and fly back to NYC and in a hotel by 2am. They could have equipment flown and use rented pa system in NYC. I believe the band would have saved grace by making an announcement directly on the web site. Even if it was written by a pr firm but at least hey I m sorry but it is worth the exposure etc. So again I lose a little respect for the aura that Jeff alludes too.....I heard Jeff mention the grammys in one of the CHicago shows so I do believe he is on a PR roll and wanting all the attention they can garner at the expense of fans that truely support him.There really should be some type of consumer protection for crap like this. Plane tickets hotel reservations lots of up front expenses for 100's of people.Hell maybe sue SNL for screwing up my life for the week.Big man wins little man pays......all the students that had tickets arent there in the summer just lot of folks let down. If it upsets you this much, I'm sure someone who was unable to get a ticket to the original show will greatly appreciate yours. You'll get your money back in which you can support a band that better mets your artistic and moral expectations. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Enjoying the IPAs, are you?Always. Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Say what you will about selling out; my main problems with Wilco playing TV shows, the VW commercials, etc, is that with the widening fanbase, especially after SBS came out, people will be attracted to Wilco via their boring, uninteresting material. basically people will like them because of the "classic rock" sound, the jam band-like guitar solos, the accessibility thats prevalent on sbs. their progression as a band, their overall musicality, their range, their willingness to experiment, tweedy's intelligent lyricism - the reasons i love wilco - will go unnoticed by this new group of fans. i noticed this a lot more significant directly after the release of sky blue sky. this may not be a bad thing, it just makes me sad, somewhat angry (possibly irrationally) and totally nostalgic. Link to post Share on other sites
poppydawn Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 their progression as a band, their overall musicality, their range, their willingness to experiment, tweedy's intelligent lyricism - the reasons i love wilco - will go unnoticed by this new group of fans. i noticed this a lot more significant directly after the release of sky blue sky. If so, those new fans will probably not be impressed after going to a show or two. They'll get bored and move on. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 (possibly irrationally)Yeah. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 MB must be seething with jealousy cause I found those DFH 60s and he's all out of 'em.Yeah. Link to post Share on other sites
VenusStopsTrain2 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The only thing I can think of to mention here is just keep in mind something...Wilco is STILL playing the more intimate venues..they are still charging affordable ticket prices unlike so many bands who are in huge venues where you can't even see them...and charging $75 or more for a ticket..where again you can't even see them. I don't think they are selling out. Yes I feel bad that the show was rescheduled, but I think it's an honor they were asked to be on SNL...and it probably wasn't a snap decision to do this to their fans. Try and think about all the options here not just being all mad because something got moved back. Link to post Share on other sites
jmacomber68w Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 WHO CARES!!!!!! no one should get worked up over this sell out bs, cause every band does/has/will, just cause you like a band that hasnt sold out (yet) doesnt make you or the band better, until the band changes its sound for $, selling out is a dumb term Link to post Share on other sites
badu2fan Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The only thing I can think of to mention here is just keep in mind something...Wilco is STILL playing the more intimate venues..they are still charging affordable ticket prices unlike so many bands who are in huge venues where you can't even see them...and charging $75 or more for a ticket..where again you can't even see them. I don't think they are selling out. Yes I feel bad that the show was rescheduled, but I think it's an honor they were asked to be on SNL...and it probably wasn't a snap decision to do this to their fans. Try and think about all the options here not just being all mad because something got moved back. It wont be long before the ticket price is up to 75+ as this is the sign we are headed for the big time.Radiohead is about the only band with no ego etc in caring about $$$. They make enough I believe is what Thom said about giving their album away free..... Talk about good PR...Come on Jeff Why didnt they pull out of chicago for the first week on SNL which I hear was offered to them as well>????? Hometown crowd I guess.Hey I like the band and will probably see them again but this is a total F*** Y** to the fans in Charleston.Not sure if I have heard of a band pulling out of a sold out gig for TV>.... Hope the PAC has a big cancelation fee that SNL has to pick up as well as the bill I am sending them.... Link to post Share on other sites
badu2fan Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I hear from a close source with SNL Wilco was offered the spot for opening night and declined..Wonder how all the chicago folks would have acted after one night drop out of their residency shows..... which makes more sense then shuting out the south..... Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 badu2fan, if that is true, then it is even worse. There are business ethics and there are business ethics. Nothing at all wrong with wanting to be on SNL. There is nothing at all wrong with a business wanting to increase profits. What is wrong is the method by which you do these things. Wilco wasn't going to fold as a band and have their homes foreclosed on if they did not take the SNL gig. That the decision wasn't, "Tony, that would be very cool but we have a sold out show in 5 days. Tell them that if we can get a date in advance or a date that doesn't conflict, we'd be honored to play it. Otherwise, we're not going to pull the rug out from under fans so close to the show just for a TV appearance", saddens me. I don't think that they are sell-outs. That is a term so overused that has lost all meaning, like "awesome!". They just put the chance to sell some more albums above some fans. Anyone should see this point regardless of whether they had tickets. The inability that some of you have to criticize, shows a lack of insight at best and is somewhat frightening at worst. Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I'm sure playing two songs on SNL will be just the catalyst this band needs to go on to the next level of mega popularity. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 You have reason to be angry and I certainly sympathize. The band has, I think, an obligation to hold true to their commitments. Folks set aside time and gave away a little bit of their income to see and support the band Link to post Share on other sites
BigWheeledWagon Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Not sure if I have heard of a band pulling out of a sold out gig for TV>.... It happens all the time. Spoon cancelled several shows last year to be on SNL. Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 While we're on the subject of what a rock band owes you...I'm still waiting for the studio recording of the arena-rock version of "Spiders". Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 dudes... lets stop this stupid notion that people get PAID to perform on SNL & Late Night TV... please? do people honestly think this?????????? Yes, people are wrong to think that NBC or SNL are paying Wilco to do this. But its also a silly notion to suggest that Wilco is not getting paid for this (indirectly). Wilco is doing this for free exposure that will hopefully lead to increased record sales. Money drove this decision. (1) I understand why they are doing it, (2) I would be bummed if I lived in Charleston, (3) People have a right to be upset, and(4) the band did the right thing by rescheduling the date so quickly. Link to post Share on other sites
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